Relum Telly specs?

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Hi,

I recently bought a Hungarian break barrel .177 from a CGN'er that I subsequently identified as a Telly model (no markings except "made in Hungary"). I bought it because it was advertised as 900+ fps, and the posting even had two pics showing a chrono displaying 900 something fps. (i don't remember the exact values and the posting is long gone)

Well, when I chrono'd it the following weekend, it was consistently shooting at 545 fps average, depending on which type of pellet I tried. No where close to 900 fps. No mods were done, nor did I take it apart or anything. The seller wasn't interested in hearing any of it and of course would not refund.

So, my question is, does anyone have any idea what velocity those air rifles were originally shooting? I haven't been able to find any info anywhere.
The rifle looks identical to other pics of Telly 200's I've seen on the net.
If it's a 600 fps air gun, not much i can do. If it is indeed 900+ fps, then I may take it apart to see if the seals and spring are ok.

Thanks,
J
 
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Until I can find out what velocity the rifle was designed for, I wont be amending the one and only rating I've given. This guy has all positive ratings and unfortunately I gave him mine before testing out the gun. What a mistake. Otherwise it shoots well, is pretty accurate out to 20 yards (the distance I tested with targets).
 
You should rescind your positive rating solely on the fact he placed chrono pics of 900 fps in the ad while after you chronied it, it was half that.

Doesn't matter if the gun was designed for 900 or 545, he used a shady sales tactic. Call him on it.
 
I have the same gun [made by FEG] and it should be doing 600fps new.I replaced the mainspring in mine after 30 years use and it is good as new dropping crows and the like.D+L has utility mainsprings for like $7.00 Easy gun to work on.........Harold
 
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Thanks for the info and suggestions. I did a little more searching on the net as you mentioned Mbogo3, they shoot around 600fps new, and mid 500's used. Just like mine.
Not to speculate, but maybe when he chono'd it, there was a LOT of deiseling or, the chono was close to flourecsent lights or some other interference.
Regardless, I'm stuck with it.
Next step is to take it apart and see what condition its in.

Thanks.
 
D+L #2 utility mainspring ID .535,OD-.733,wire diameter .119+ # of coils 37 Five minute change and under ten bucks.Take your old one out and measure to see if it's close lube new one with moly and re-install.........Harold
 
well, I opened her up and found a spring exactly like mbogo3 described, except ends were not closed and a slight wave to the spring. Leather seal seemed fine, although a little flimsy.
I put in another utility spring in and she's up in the 570 - 580 range depending on pellets.
Certainly NOT what I wanted to buy, but it's a nice little rifle nonetheless. Won't make that mistake again either...

Thanks for all the advice.
 
It wouldn't hurt to remove the piston and soak it ,leather seal down in a jar or glass with a 1/2" of Neat's Foot oil to swell up the seal.I left mine a week then re-assembled.It will now shoot another 30 years.Great little guns...........Harold
 
you got conned, out this guy if he does not make this right. He should be finished on this board. Posting pics showing one thing and then delivering something else is NOT acceptable.

Do NOT be shy to post ALL his info IF he does not make this right to your satisfaction.
 
The powerful Tellys where those that had a piston chamber tube when measured from the out side 28 cm.Doing 750fps with a leather piston seal,there also was a model that had a bigger piston chamber of 36cm,that was even more powerful.All this back in the 70s,a small metal plate wrote Telly on the stock.
 
“[JESTER 5000 - Goran] gave me a negative feedback, and I thought to just respond to
this. I used a Chrony Beta chronograph to measure the muzzle velocity of
the airgun and was getting 900's to 1000's fps. In good faith, I
advertised as 900 fp for sale for $100. I even did video the chronograph
for my records. When doing the deal [JESTER 5000 - Goran] actually brought his own
gun into my house to get chronographed. I was shocked as I have kids and
family in the house and did not know the condition of his gun. He did
apologize but I still did not appreciate what happened.

Anyhow, a few weeks later I get emails, phone call from [JESTER 5000 - Goran] saying
he gets only 550fps from his friends chronograph. He was not happy. I
replied saying I am sorry but don't know what happened to the gun after the
transaction and cannot understand why it measures off and he can either
take to a gun smith or sell it off because I do not want the headache of
dealing with this due to my current health condition. Also, when he picked
up the gun, he stuffed it into the same single case as the gun he brought with
him. I 'really' take care of my stuff, so I know there are dents etc to
the gun after the way it was handled. That is when he have me the negative
feedback.

I really did sell this gun in good faith with the best information I had at
the time and really don't understand what happened to the velocity after
the sale since I was not there. Also, due to my health condition really
cannot deal with this as the sale was "as-is".

Anyhow, this is what happened.

Sincerely,
Mike"
 
Meh. Maybe someone will be inspired to do their own homework before laying the money down.

Airgun velocities are as subject to fluffing out, about on par with horsepower ratings on a Sears Shop Vac. Most of the 'rated' velocities you see online, are out to lunch.

Really. All I see here is someone that didn't use due diligence, before parting with his money.

For what it's worth, at $100, that one is a pretty good catch, even needing some work. Maybe call it the price of an education.

Cheers
Trev
 
You're absolutely correct that I should have done my homework first. At least that was my intention. I figured since the seller had a chronograph, I would certainly test the gun before handing over the cash, and since I had an old 30 year old Chinese one, I would bring it along as a comparison.
When I got there, the seller said he didn't have a chrono, he used a friends...well that was disappointing since obviously I couldn't test the velocity of either one. I did take my old one out of the case to show but when he said he didn't want either one cocked or fired in the house, I put it away... There was never any negative tone or anything to suggest being shocked and there certainly weren't any children or anyone else around otherwise I of course would have asked first. I have young kids too, I could appreciate that.

Unfortunately, I only fired a few pellets in my basement to make sure it fired, and it was a few weeks after buying it that I had an opportunity to borrow a chrono. I used a brand new Chrony Master Gamma. Seemed to work just fine outdoors as it was measuring all the other guns pretty much what they were advertised. Except this one.
So I sent the seller [MK357 Mike] an email that day asking if he had any idea why I would be getting 500fps instead of 900 as he advertised. Well, after a few minutes I got an angry phone call asking why I was bugging him with this crap, along with a few additional expletives. Not the reaction I expected. I explained how I tested it and the results and that I was confused how he got something twice as fast. Again I was angrily told his results were accurate and who knows what I did to the gun. Really?? You think I would buy a gun that I needed only to bugger it up and waste time to get a refund? For what purpose?? I think not.
In any case, he stated there were three other people who were interested, but I was the winner. So realizing I wasn't getting a refund, I asked if he could forward my handle to the other three letting them know it's available. Again I was told "it's only $100", what's the big deal, if I didn't like it I could post it and sell it myself. As well, he stated for privacy reasons he couldn't forward my handle to them. Well, sorry, but that wasn't the point. It wasn't a matter of $100, it was the principle of buying something that you took someone's word for since you weren't able to "test drive" it, only to find out, that's not the case.

I did end up doing my homework, but it was too late. The cylinder length is 26cm, and the outside diameter is 3cm. There is no way this gun could ever compress enough air to push a pellet 900 fps. I've since confirmed with a few separate sources that these little rifles were 600fps.
As I've stated before, it's a nice little rifle (and no, there are no dents in the wood from bringing home in a case along side another wooden rifle), but it's not what I was looking to buy.

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, so I'm sure the seller's chrono displayed 900 fps, I would just love to know how and under what circumstances.
The negative rating was more because I was in utter disbelief and shock at how I was responded to and treated when asking why the huge difference in measured velocity, and then being told where to go when asking for any sort of recourse or compromise. So much for being trusting. You're right Trev, it was good education.

gord.
 
Hi, I really just wanted to share my side of the story but must leave this item. I have logged my home security cam's and voice recordings of conversations for my own records. You are welcome to continue this in whichever fashion, I really do wish the best to you.
Sincerely,
Mike
 
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