rem 597 help

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I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem with the remington 597 and if you did fix it how. Me and a good friend of mine were at the range and his remington model 597 started shooting 2 round burst. The rifle keeps misfeeding and catching ejected shells if that might affect it. We have both tried cleaning this thing vigerously. About ever four shots it jams and within 3 shots after the jam and sometimes without jamming it fires a two shot burst. I tried disassebling it but I don't see any broken parts. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
 
First off check and see if the mag has a number 10 with a circle around it. If not, you need a replacement mag. The older mags were trouble. Secondly if it is going full auto for a couple of rounds, sounds like trigger group trouble. Check the trigger group and make sure the sear disconnect is clean and free with a little shot of good quality oil. The sear disconnect is a little piece of metal that the bolt contacts on its rearward travel to disconnect the trigger from the sear and keeps the hammer in a fully cocked position until you release the trigger and squeeze again for the next shot.
 
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Can you elaborate on what kind of jamming? Is it "stove pipe"? Or fail to extract? Or fail to feed? Next time rifle stops shooting observe carefully what actually happened. Hard to fix if you do not know what needs fixing.

Regarding two-shot bursts - did you modify your trigger? Filed hammer notch at all? Sometimes if I modify simple trigger and make it too light it may either not latch or go full-auto.

Sometimes brand new rifle may have issues if you try firing them without cleaning first. I have Rem 597 and never had any issues with it. Try switching ammo, high powered rounds may cause "Stove-pipes" sometimes, I think bolt carrier is a bit too light and accelerates two fast to cycle normally. If thats the case you may want to replace cocking handle with oversized metal one.
 
re-read your post, I think cleaning is the problem. You said you cleaned it vigorously, but Remington 597 is not an easy to clean. Its not a field work so to speak. Takes me over an hour to take it apart, clean it and put back together. Also check if ejector is not bent or if trigger group sits in well, because ejector is actually located in that drop-down trigger assembly if I am not mistaken, and it is fairly delicate piece of thin metal, could easily lose geometry if mishandled.
 
c'mon people out of all budget semi's 597 is the best. This is not a piece of kit like 10 22.
 
i almost bought a 597, but they siad save you money buy a ruger, good advice, 1 week latter bass pro hadem cheap.
basicly look around and sooner or latter you will find a ruger cheap.
if your in a hurry the a 597 is a good cheap gun, but remeber you get what you pay for.
 
The 795 Marlin is twice the rifle than the 597. Notice anything with those numbers?

The Remingtons are junk. They are dangerous. They are unreliable. That's all.

Now I'm not a fan of the 10/22, but even I can say that it is superior in design to the 597, for all the things I listed above. It locks up on each shot, so it doesn't go boom like the 597. It will feed most reliably from it's magazine. (Though mine didn't all the time) I won't get into aftermarket junk, but the base rifles do not compare. I'm not trying to be mean or ignorant, just get rid of it, buy a better built rifle and have no more problems.
 
You guys are funny.... a few people have a few problems with a rifle and you're prepared to write off the whole model....:

The 597 I bought works fine. If you know how to take it apart and then reassemble the thing you shouldn't have any problems.
 
I had to send mine to Michel Gravel Agency in Quebec for jamming but after that, it worked perfect! One of the most reliable rimfires I have now. Certainly not the most accurate though. I have a Cooey Model 75 that is the most accurate rifle I ever fired.
 
I have fired several thousand rounds through my one year old 597 .22WMR without any feeding, firing or ejection problems whatsoever ...none. I can't speak for the .22LR and .17HMR versions, but the .22WMR flavour is far from being 'junk', 'dangerous' or 'unreliable'.

Accuracy wise, it shoots just fine:

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Ha ha ha... all the 10/22 guys are at home admiring their guns :jerkit: while the 597 guys are out shooting theirs! (we can still afford the ammo) ;)
The 597 does like to be clean (not squeeky, just clean).
Most of us have added a VQ hammer and extractor and for a quarter of the cost are outshooting the 10/22's (yes, I own one of those as well).
Have fun and save your sledgehammer for anyone who suggests you get rid of the 597! :D
(By the way, the exploding 597 was a 17HMR and it was an ammo issue)
 
Hey Supershooter I use to have the same issues as you are having. First off strip that gun down to the bare bones and clean it really well,take your time in doing so. When it comes time to re-install those little set screws that hold the guide rods in twist em in until they are in all the way and then back them off 1/4 to 1/2 a turn to keep the rods from binding up/twisting. If they are too tight the bolt won't function properly. Don't worry about them falling out b/c the stock will hold them in when all is back together.

Now for the trigger group I personally use Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber® Synthetic Safe Cleaner (the one with the silver cap). Spray the group out, let dry . Do this with the extractor area on the bolt as well, and make sure to move the extractor to see/feel it moves freely, if it doesn't then spray it again. Some might say overkill but I usually spray those areas 2-3 times to get all the gunk out.

And finally run that puppy with NO OIL. Since I stopped oiling mine it runs flawlessly, especially with CCI Mini-Mags.

P.S. you could try shaving a bit off the bolt buffer as well not much tho 1-2 mm.

Hope this helps you out
 
teclaydon said:
I have fired several thousand rounds through my one year old 597 .22WMR without any feeding, firing or ejection problems whatsoever ...none. I can't speak for the .22LR and .17HMR versions, but the .22WMR flavour is far from being 'junk', 'dangerous' or 'unreliable'.

Accuracy wise, it shoots just fine:
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I routinely put 100 rounds downrange in my 597 22WMR and I have never had a single issue with feeding, firing, nor ejection of rounds.
 
Jarlath said:
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I routinely put 100 rounds downrange in my 597 22WMR and I have never had a single issue with feeding, firing, nor ejection of rounds.
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Ditto. I can go to the range and shoot all day with my 597 in .22LR and not have a single jam or issue whatsoever. I usually lube the action up nicely with some CLP. Even without it, I'm sure the rifle would function perfectly.
 
22lr said:
c'mon people out of all budget semi's 597 is the best. This is not a piece of kit like 10 22.
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Actually. when it comes down to it. I think the Marlin Model 60 is the best bang for the buck when it comes to semi auto .22LR's
More accurate then a 10/22 at almost half the cost.

Only down side is it is tube fed. But when you take into consideration the loading of a mag....
 
northwoodslivin said:
Actually. when it comes down to it. I think the Marlin Model 60 is the best bang for the buck when it comes to semi auto .22LR's
More accurate then a 10/22 at almost half the cost.

Only down side is it is tube fed. But when you take into consideration the loading of a mag....
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Personally, I hate tube mags. That's just my opinion, but I don't like moving the whole rifle around to load it. Moving a tiny magazine around and loading it independently of the rifle makes for easier handling.

It's bad enough with my Cooey 600, I couldn't imagine doing it with a semi-auto.
 
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