Rem 597 issues

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Hey guys, so I've had a Remington 597 for a long time now but it barely get any range time out of my 15 rifles.

Problem is she only shoots cci ammo reliably, all other ammo will short stroke it 1-2 times out of a ten round mag. I've taken it apart 100 times, cleaned, inspected, oiled but to no avail.

Am I stuck shooting the more expensive ammo? I'd really like to just buy the bulk federal or Remington. I dunno haha I usually just grab my savage 93R17 if I'm in a rim fire mood haha. Thanks guys any tip appreciated
 
When you re-assembled it, did you over-tighten the guide rods. They just need to be turned in with very little pressure. Over tight and you will end up with the problems your having. Cheers
 
The screws holding guide rods must be tightened enough just to hold the guide rods in place. If you are not sure if the torque is enough, just put a drop of Blue Loctite thread sealer and hand tighten the screws until it barely locks in place. Wait until the loctite is dry before you use the rifle. My R597 HB was also ammo-picky when I got it. CCI Blazer and Minimag, Fed 525 Bulk, Win 555/525 are the ammo I currently use. Wildcats are the least recommended. I have not used any Reminton. Also, check your magazine. Clean the internals and check for burrs. Polish/deburr any sharp edge or casting marks. My 10-rounders are sometimes picky in the way ammo is loaded. Loading a maximum of 8-rds seems to be good for me. Just buy a few more. Le Baron has the best price this mag. The 30 rounder is a hit and miss. Not sure if Promag's 25-rounder is a better mag. I am also looking for a better aftermaket mag for mine. Also, too much oil seems to be a problem.

canadaman30 said:
When you re-assembled it, did you over-tighten the guide rods. They just need to be turned in with very little pressure. Over tight and you will end up with the problems your having. Cheers
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Thanks guys, I actually was aware about the guide rods and was tightening correctly. I will look at the mags closer and do some tinkering next time I'm out at the farm.
 
My 597, I babied it and cleaned it, and meticulously cleaned it, and tightened the guide rods correctly and it still malfunctioned. I started neglecting it and now it works fine. Just saying.
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timandkimandshea said:
My 597, I babied it and cleaned it, and meticulously cleaned it, and tighten ended the guide rods correctly and it still malfunctioned. I started neglecting it and now it works fine. Just saying.
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Haha Ill try that too if all else fails. Actually the way I remember it, when I first got this rifle it functioned flawlessly at first. It could very well be my cleaning method.
 
Touch the screws to guide rods and back off one flat of hex wrench, no loctite needed as the stock stops the screws falling out.
 
TheArmyMan204 said:
Hey guys, so I've had a Remington 597 for a long time now but it barely get any range time out of my 15 rifles.

Problem is she only shoots cci ammo reliably, all other ammo will short stroke it 1-2 times out of a ten round mag. I've taken it apart 100 times, cleaned, inspected, oiled but to no avail.

Am I stuck shooting the more expensive ammo? I'd really like to just buy the bulk federal or Remington. I dunno haha I usually just grab my savage 93R17 if I'm in a rim fire mood haha. Thanks guys any tip appreciated
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Not too much oil! Lube with the least amount possible. Some of my semi .22's I have to run dry for them to function properly at all. My 597 does like the rails slippery, but not wet.

Magazines, and over torqued guide rails can cause some issues with these gems. If it did function flawlessly, I doubt that is what's causing you troubles.

I run only round nosed ammo (federal champions, CCI blasers). Not because my 597 is fussy, but because some of my other .22's are.
 
Make sure that the guide rod springs are not bound up in the bolt, I always pull them back after install to make sure they move freely. Try and polish the guide rods as well as the bottom of the bolt that will smooth it up lots.
 
I found my 597 needs little to no oil (I use remington dry oil). Just on the guide rods and a bit inside the reciever on the walls. I also put an after market extractor in my bolt. I only get maybe 1 ftf/double feed out of a 100 rounds. The promag magazines are junk, don't touch them.
 
There is a ton of information on the 597 on rimfire central. Also the tips above about the guide rod pressure is priceless. I have more than 10,000 rounds through my VTR and have had no issues since following rimfire centrals advice.
 
jdawg said:
Make sure that the guide rod springs are not bound up in the bolt, I always pull them back after install to make sure they move freely. Try and polish the guide rods as well as the bottom of the bolt that will smooth it up lots.
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what do you use to polish these areas?
 
jdawg said:
Make sure that the guide rod springs are not bound up in the bolt, I always pull them back after install to make sure they move freely. Try and polish the guide rods as well as the bottom of the bolt that will smooth it up lots.
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Mine came polished very nicely, where are you polishing? I would hate to guess the finish but would put it to below an RMS of 10.

baldabe said:
There is a ton of information on the 597 on rimfire central. Also the tips above about the guide rod pressure is priceless. I have more than 10,000 rounds through my VTR and have had no issues since following rimfire centrals advice.
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What was Rimfire Central’s advice? I have always kept mine touching and snug and never ran into , maybe 10 inch lbs. torque. Others I know with the 597 have done the same with no problems.
 
[/QUOTE]What was Rimfire Central’s advice? I have always kept mine touching and snug and never ran into , maybe 10 inch lbs. torque. Others I know with the 597 have done the same with no problems.[/QUOTE]

There are quite a few stickies about the 597. About the guide rods, 10 inch lbs is what Remington recommends, but most people see it as 10 ft lbs and thats where the problem starts. Polishing the guide rods helps also use only dry lube on the rods. There are other stickies on trigger jobs, torquing the action screws, bedding etc, which is not what we are discussing here. What I follow for the guide rods is tighten the set screws and back off unti I can turn (spin) the rods with my fingers easily and thats the job done! I do not have a low setting torque wrench.
I have on order a Mcarbo spring and washer set (replacement aluminium spacers for the plastic parts on either side of the hammer). I will report on those once I recieve and have tried them out.
 
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