Rem 700 .223 PMAG Conversion

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I have a bunch of PMAGs that are collecting dust in the basement (thanks Lieberals) and a Remington 700 in .223 that wants to get out now that the weather is getting better.

Is there a drop in conversion kit for the Rem 700 that will allow me to use my PMAGs?
 
Honestly, you're better off getting bottom metal (or a chassis) that allows you to run AICS pattern mags. The polymer MDT .223 ones run great, are inexpensive, hold 10 rounds and allow a longer COAL than any AR mag. Get one of the non-res .223 semis and use your pmags in that...
 
If you really x 3 need to use up them PMags (I have several from my CQB days, thanks PM Turdeau and MP Bill BLiar), consider the Ruger American Ranch in 5.56mm 8” twist barrel with 16.x” barrel. I bought one for $700 and it comes with it’s own Picatinny rail.

The rifle can best described as a bush/ranch rifle that tries really hard to be a precision rig. :eek:

I was hovering around 1 MOA groups with lots of potential for just under 1 MOA when / If I do my part. I was shooting my Service Rifle loads / booolits of 68 grain HPBT Hornady exiting around 2980 FPS. It also happen to like the Federal American Eagle 55 grain FMJ loads from Cambodian Tire (you remember ; $500 for 1000 rounds and you get the ammo can, too) :cool:

For you Service Rifle types, one can mono-pod that 30/5 rd magazine just like an AR15 in competition at DCRA NSCC matches.

Hope this helps! :wave:

Cheers, Barney
 
I wonder what would happen if we compared a RAR with aftermarket gunsmith-fit barrel, to a Rem 700 with aftermarket gunsmith-fit barrel. Think the RAR would win in accuracy, and still use PMAGs?
 
Mossberg has a few .223 rifles that take AR mags. Not quite certain how good those are, whether their precision rifle holds its own against others, or if I actually want AR compatibility more than a bit more accuracy. Apparently if you really go .223 precision then you eventually want to load them long and an AICS mag lets you do that while the AR mag limits you.
 
old303 said:
Mossberg has a few .223 rifles that take AR mags. Not quite certain how good those are, whether their precision rifle holds its own against others, or if I actually want AR compatibility more than a bit more accuracy. Apparently if you really go .223 precision then you eventually want to load them long and an AICS mag lets you do that while the AR mag limits you.
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That part is true. For instance the factory 'precison' guns in 223, like the Ruger Precision Rifle (discontinued) and Savage 110 Elite Precision, both use AICS outer-shaped mags that are 223 specific, and allow loading much longer than the 2.250" limit imposed by AR15 magazines. The Savage mag is a MDT 223 mag, max length about 2.550". Though the throat on the 110 EP chamber is too short to allow you to get out to that 2.550" length, unfortunately.
 
adamg said:
That part is true. For instance the factory 'precison' guns in 223, like the Ruger Precision Rifle (discontinued) and Savage 110 Elite Precision, both use AICS outer-shaped mags that are 223 specific, and allow loading much longer than the 2.250" limit imposed by AR15 magazines. The Savage mag is a MDT 223 mag, max length about 2.550". Though the throat on the 110 EP chamber is too short to allow you to get out to that 2.550" length, unfortunately.
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The catch is that a lot of us still have ammo and mags and accessories from pre-OIC and are looking for a way of using that up, so rifles that'll take that and maybe give 1 MOA and accepting that it's just a decent plinking rifle may be more on the menu.

Going .223 precision means new magazines and different ammunition and a totally different rifle and everything else and really doesn't recycle any AR stuff so it's a whole new game. And for a precision rig, saving up a bit more and spending it in 6.5 CM seems to be where most shooters are going. The main plusses of trying it in .223 would seem to be cost-saving, being a bit more practical if you can't hang a target more than a couple hundred metres out, and maybe for visiting military ranges that take service calibers only. Are there any other good reasons for going down the .223 precision rabbit hole?
 
Winchester3030 said:
I have a bunch of PMAGs that are collecting dust in the basement (thanks Lieberals) and a Remington 700 in .223 that wants to get out now that the weather is getting better.

Is there a drop in conversion kit for the Rem 700 that will allow me to use my PMAGs?
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There are a few conversion kits on the market, but the overlap of the bolt head to the case-head never appeared to be good enough that you had 100% reliable feeding, or at least ran the risk of riding the bolt over the base of the cartridge. As other's have said, some machining could be required as well.
 
Winchester3030 said:
I have a bunch of PMAGs that are collecting dust in the basement (thanks Lieberals) and a Remington 700 in .223 that wants to get out now that the weather is getting better.

Is there a drop in conversion kit for the Rem 700 that will allow me to use my PMAGs?
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Sell the 700 and get a ruger bolt action in 223. They take pmags and apparently are quite worth the value. Search the EE here and you might find one used for a good price.
 
Lots of excellent info ... many thanks !!!

As others have observed, the objective is to use existing PMAGs in the existing Rem 700 with existing .223 ammo. I'm not really in the market for a new gun or mags.

I load 55g at 2.230 and 77g at 2.250 so the PMAGs seem to work OK.

I'll take a look at the additional info in the referenced link.

:)
 
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