Rem 700 VTR

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im thinking about building up a Rem 700 Varmint Tactical rifle in .308 for kind of a sniper style setup (just a varmint scope, and bipod really lol)

how accurate are they (i will be handloading for it)

good choice? is is there something else i should look for in that price range?

i want something that can be had for around $800 for now

evenutlly i want a sako sniper rifle in .300 mag but for now all i care about is something .30 cal and accurate and around $800

opinions? suggestions? advice?....:)
 
Some are accurate, some are not - seriously. You can spend 800 or 2800 on a Remington, and they will both stand an equal chance of shooting well -or or crappy. It doesn't sound like you intend to compete with it, so just add a few cool go-fasters and have fun with it. You might be pleasanltly surprised how well it shoots.

Is it a good choice? - certainly as good as any out there and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It all boils down to budget and personal choice. I guarantee someone is going to start yet another irrelevant and subjective Savage vs. Remington argument. What is the better gun? Ask the US Military; they use them for what they were truly designed for. :)
 
Ever consider a Savage as a starting point? They seem to provide consistently better accuracy out-of-the-box. There are many models to choose from also. I purchased "one of those" Rem 700's (brand new), which needed some serious work on the action. I ended up rebarreling it and now it's quite fine. However, it took more than your anticipated budget to get it there and a lot of time. The good side of all of this is I made some new friends who are experts at their trades. Savage rifles offer some built-in flexibility like removeable bolt faces and Accu-Trigger...

When I think of rifles I have or had, most of them are Savage. I would consider customizing a Savage but haven't had to since they perform very well right out of the box.

There are lots of posts here about both Remington 700 and Savage projects.
In the end, it's your choice and up to you to decide what meets your requirements.

Good luck with your project!

SD
 
I have a VTR in 223 its relatively new to me so I have yet to try a lot of different ammo's with it but with Remington accutips its a tac driver and defiantly sub moa. Since its My first precision rifle Remington I'm not as experienced with their product as others may be, but I like it and its cool looking as well.
 
get the SPS Tac.....atleas it shoots round bluets, not triangular :)))))
SPS Tac has better (I agree that still not the best) stock than VTR
 
I looked at the VTR today and felt it was alright. Almost thought about buying it. Did not have the sps tactical for comparison, but the stock just felt a little weird.
 
Remington VTR

A young friend of mine went out and bought a New Remington 700 Police in 223 for over $1200 last month. It came from a well-known Canadian mail order Co. Got it out of the box and we cleaned and checked it, I noticed there was traces of brass on the bolt face. I pointed out to the guy and thought it might have been test fired before shipping. The barrel wasn't exactly spotless that's why I thought they may have test fired the gun at the factory. I mounted a scope and used the bore slighter to get it on paper.

Went to the range (we took all factory ammo) he loaded the first round fired it and we checked the brass. The primer looked like it was flowing back into the firing pin hole like firing a hand load that was too hot. Looked at the bolt face and compared the firing pin hole to other bolts from a number of guns that were on the rack. It was larger than all the rest at the range.
We tried a number of different kinds of ammo and all came out the same. Also the cases were marked the length of the casing from the shoulder back, with two scratches about 5mm apart. I didn't notice it at first but chambering a round took lots of effort, and it was shaving a considerable amount of brass from the bottom of each round.

The gun went to the Remington warranty person in Quebec, they checked it out are going to send him a new gun.

The thing that puzzles me is why was there brass on the bolt face, and a small amount of dirt in the bore?
If it was test fired it would never have left the factory. A few guys I talked to stated it might have been sold earlier, was returned because of the problems and was resold to him. Then he was telling me about what the rep said about the guns features and it sounded like a BIG load of BS to me.

He is just a really great young guy and just getting into shooting but he was disappointed with what he got for $1200. Now he is waiting for a replacement to arrive. It didn’t really give me confidence in the Remingtons.
 
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...The primer looked like it was flowing back into the firing pin hole like firing a hand load that was too hot
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Hot ammo flattens out the primer, and besides, this is an ammo issue, not a rifle issue.

...Looked at the bolt face and compared it to other bolts from a number of guns that were on the rack. It was larger than all the rest at the range
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As in longer, or as in larger bolt face?

My guess is that this gun was fired and returned/re-sold. The oversize bolt sounds like someone put a magnum bolt into the rifle whether by accident or design. Unfortunately this is a risk you run in buying anything sight-unseen, and I wouold be less inclined to blame the manufacturer and more inclined to blame the vendor, particularly if they are a big outfit and are less likely to scrutinize a return.

All in all, a bad expereince for the customer and that is too bad.
 
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The bolt face had a larger firing pin hole than any of the other rifle bolts in the racks.
The primers flatten out when hot loads are fired but the primers were normal in every other respect except the metal started to flow back into the hole.
If a primer it ruptured there would be gas escaping into the bolt body and could cause some problems.
 
after some more reasear i think im going to go with the SPS-V in .308 i hear it shoots very well out of the box and its cheaper to boot;)....

so now that you guys have helped me answer that question i need a scope for this rifle....:cool: im looking for something for ranges out to 300 yards or so but alot of shooting will be done at 100 yards since thats all our range goes to:(:(:(:(

i do however want a fairly powerful scope....not your typical 3-9x40

any suggestions?:):):):)....i suppose i should make a post about this in optics as well eh....
 
Keep an eye on the EE for higher magnification scopes.

I really have to recommend something with a target reticle because it allows for you to see a smaller area of your target.

For example, I can see a thumbtac at 100yds because the reticle dot is small enough that it doesn't obscure the tack. Regular reticles are thick enough that they cover something that small at the same distance.

Imagine the benefits at longer ranges.

The drawback though of the target reticle is that it is more difficult to see with lots of backscatter or darker lighting, which may be a problem with hunting..

It works fine when looking at a white piece of paper, but i'm not sure how well it would work with lots of blacks and browns of a treeline, animal etc.
 
Alas once again brand loyatly comes into the forums again. I have many precision rifles from many brands I also happen to have a remington VTR in .308 and it shoots incredibly accurate for such a inexpensive rifle. Contrary to popular belief it's not a fad, remington just released 3 more rifles with the triangular barrel so I guess just maybe the companies that build them for a living know what they're talking about. Bottom line is don't listen to opinions on here of people who have never fired the rifle your interested in because all that you'll get is a suggestion about another rifle that is apparently "better". This is quite simply the Chevy vs. Dodge debate, I won't give you an opinion on a rifle unless I have personally shot it and I wish more people would do the same.

my 2 cents
 
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