I have two. One I bought new in 1980 (222Rem). Will shoot under 3/4" at 100 yds. The second is a much harder to find 30-30 Win. Only have seen two in total. Always wanted one in 30-30 for a cast bullet rifle. Haven't shot it much but it doesn't shoot as well as I think it should.(2-3" at 100 yds). Will try some Horn A-Max's when I get the time. Dealer I bought it from (since closed) also had one in 44mag. They certainly aren't pretty and the triggers are heavy but in general they are quite accurate. Good used ones usually have an asking price around $450-500