Friend of mine plans on building rifle in .308 (possibly in 6.5x47) and but has hard time to choose between rem and savage. He asked me for advice but I do not have much experience with savage except that I hear lots of good feedbacks from people. On the other hand, i built my rifle based on rem700 in I'm very happy with it. What would you suggest to my buddy to base his rifle upon?
Rem vs Savage
- Thread starter tetan
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Here we go again.
Hey, I keep saying that this tedious, redundant, irrelevant and subjective Savage versus Remington shyte should be in its own forum. At least THIS a question - albeit a vicarious one - about building a precision rifle, not "I just put a $250 scope and a bipod on my +2MOA factory $400 rifle and now it's a PRECISION rifle!"
Hey, I have a #17 contour in stock if you want something heavier.
Savage. The rem is not better at all, they became popular because of looks and decent quality. Hunters choosing which they liked better would certainly pick the deep blued steel and beutiful stocks of the rem since both functioned the same.
A regular guy can build up a Savage by himself. A remington needs a gunsmith, more money and often way too much time.
A regular guy can build up a Savage by himself. A remington needs a gunsmith, more money and often way too much time.
I believe they became popular in the 60's because they set the standard in mass produced factory rifles for accuracy, strength and safety... and today they still are a superior action for building a precision rifle for an inexpensive price.
Regardless of the action, precision rifles are put together by qualified people, not by do it your selfers at home ... the chambering is critical.
Check out Savages Model 12 F class rifles
Model 12F Class – with target AccuTrigger™
(Scope not included)
Action Short
Caliber 6.5 x 284 NORMA
6 Norma BR
Overall Length 50"
Barrel Length 30"
Weight 13.30 lbs
Magazine Capacity Single shot
Stock Gray laminate with 3" wide ventilated forend with flat bottom, triple pillar bedding, and straight target pad under the butt
Sights Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Rifling Rate of Twist 6.5 x 284 NORMA (1 in 8")
6 Norma BR (1 in 8”)
Features Target AccuTrigger™ adjustable from approx 6 oz to 2.5 lbs, oversized bolt handle, stainless extra-heavy free-floating and button-rifled barrel, right bolt, right port.
Suggested Retail $1,265.00
Model 12F/TR – with target AccuTrigger™
(Scope and bipod not included)
Action Short
Caliber 308 Win
Overall Length 50"
Barrel Length 30"
Weight 12.65 lbs
Magazine Capacity Single shot
Stock Gray laminate with vented beavertail forend and bipod rail, triple pillar bedding, and 2 adjustable cheek pieces
Sights Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Rifling Rate of Twist
308 Win(1 in 12")
Features Target AccuTrigger™ adjustable from approx 6 oz to 2.5 lbs, oversized bolt handle, stainless extra-heavy free-floating and button-rifled barrel, right bolt, right port.
Suggested Retail $1,193.00
Definately cheaper than making a Reminton 700 into a target rifle
Model 12F Class – with target AccuTrigger™
(Scope not included)
Action Short
Caliber 6.5 x 284 NORMA
6 Norma BR
Overall Length 50"
Barrel Length 30"
Weight 13.30 lbs
Magazine Capacity Single shot
Stock Gray laminate with 3" wide ventilated forend with flat bottom, triple pillar bedding, and straight target pad under the butt
Sights Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Rifling Rate of Twist 6.5 x 284 NORMA (1 in 8")
6 Norma BR (1 in 8”)
Features Target AccuTrigger™ adjustable from approx 6 oz to 2.5 lbs, oversized bolt handle, stainless extra-heavy free-floating and button-rifled barrel, right bolt, right port.
Suggested Retail $1,265.00
Model 12F/TR – with target AccuTrigger™
(Scope and bipod not included)
Action Short
Caliber 308 Win
Overall Length 50"
Barrel Length 30"
Weight 12.65 lbs
Magazine Capacity Single shot
Stock Gray laminate with vented beavertail forend and bipod rail, triple pillar bedding, and 2 adjustable cheek pieces
Sights Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Rifling Rate of Twist
308 Win(1 in 12")
Features Target AccuTrigger™ adjustable from approx 6 oz to 2.5 lbs, oversized bolt handle, stainless extra-heavy free-floating and button-rifled barrel, right bolt, right port.
Suggested Retail $1,193.00
Definately cheaper than making a Reminton 700 into a target rifle
Go to any f-class match and count the number of Remington actions used as the basis for precision rifles and they try and find a Savage... Ok, the "Farky" match is an exception because Mysticplayer will be there
Stock Lemington Factory rifles NO, Lemington actions sure I, At least Savage Arms does field a team using over the counter target rifles that they sell check out the link.
http://www.savagearms.com/BreakingNews052208.htm
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kharlingca
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- Montreal Region, QC
Just to throw some gas on the fire, I have been looking at both Rem and Sav. So my question is. What if I want one with a removed magazine? Then what is my best choice? I want a “precision rifle” but I want it with a removable magazine in 308.
I stick to a European rifle, so I'm impartial either way in the Rem vs Sav debate but I have a good friend that just bought a Savage 10FCP McMillan in 308. Win. and it has a removable magazine. Don't know much about Remingtons, but I'd bet they have something with a removable magazine too...
but I have a good friend that just bought a Savage 10FCP McMillan in 308. Win. and it has a removable magazine. Don't know much about Remingtons, but I'd bet they have something with a removable magazine too...
True .... nothing can replace a talented machinist/gunsmith for putting together a precision rifle.
But with a Savage, the "do it yourselfer" can put together a decent rifle using after market parts.
As you said the Chamber is critical, and Shilen produces quality Savage replacement barrels: pre-chambered and contoured.
the home mechanic merely needs a headspace gauge and a barrel nut wrench.
Many have acknowledged that with Savage's floating bolthead design a lot of the machine work that goes into a Remmy
to get the receiver face, locking lug abutments, bolt lugs etc all perfectly square to each other isn't necessary .
If he then buys an after market stock and beds it, he'll be a long way to having a great shooting rifle.
It may not be able to compete with one of your tuned up rifles Dennis, but it'll out shoot an "off the rack" Remington
any day of the week. I believe any guy capable of doing the brakes on his car and doing a tune up, could put together
a Savage that will shoot well !
I like Remington, but....
A couple of the latest Savage rifles have looked pretty good. There was a 12F in 6mm BR at the local gun shop. They outfitted it with a Elite 6500 scope. Not bad at all for an entry level benchrest or a varminter rifle.
Also I've seen a few Savage .223 bull barrelled rifles with Macmillian and HS stocks. Again they looked like decent rifles. They're starting to make stuff that I'm actually interested in.
My 5R milspec and 7mm wilcat with Remington action are still my favourites however.
A couple of the latest Savage rifles have looked pretty good. There was a 12F in 6mm BR at the local gun shop. They outfitted it with a Elite 6500 scope. Not bad at all for an entry level benchrest or a varminter rifle.
Also I've seen a few Savage .223 bull barrelled rifles with Macmillian and HS stocks. Again they looked like decent rifles. They're starting to make stuff that I'm actually interested in.
My 5R milspec and 7mm wilcat with Remington action are still my favourites however.
