Reminginton m91 moison negant Fin Capture

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Hi everyone,just picked this up and after a few hours of google searching came up with quite a bit of info about this particular rifle .It was made by Remington for the Russians who couldent afford to pay for them or just refused to .Only a percentage of the rifles were ever shipped to Russia as the did not receive payment for the rifles all ready shipped.This left Remington in financial difficulty .The remainder of the rifles were bought by the american govt and issued as home guard rifles and such.
This particular rifle was one that made it to mother Russia and was captured by the Fins and who knows where else its been but some how it made it here to Canada.
Here are a few pics of the rifle ,feel free to comment or add any info you might have about this particular rifle
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the front site was missing and was gone a long time the site grove was filled with dust,need to find a replacement if possible.Is this a fairly rare rifle or are they common.Its my first finn mosin,this could be the start of something LOL
 
I dont know if it still as the American stock,there are no # on the rifle that i can see without taking it apart other than the receiver and bolt.The bolt as 3 different serial # none of them match the receiver although the bolt looks to period correct ,with the serial on the cocking nob
 
Only american Remington and New England Westinghouse stocks were made of walnut, so it's an American stock - no question. On the bolt handle side of the buttstock there should be a roundel like this if it's Remington and if it has not been sanded away:

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Sometimes, forward of the trigger guard, you will see this mark on the bottom of the stock, but only if it was ever used by US forces in its history (as some were):

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If the stock is New England Westinghouse, on the non-bolt side of the butt, you may find this cartouche:

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This mark is sometimes also on Remington stocks, but if so, it will be on the bolt handle side of the butt. It translate roughly to "English Factory" or "English Contract", meaning the USA.
 
Cant see any of those marks ,the only marks i can see on the stock are two small circles on the stock near the sling swivel on the right side ,one inside the other the largest of the two being about 10 mm in diameter.All the metal parts have what looks like a small T stamped on them.The butt plate and the mag cover have no serial#,the bolt is stamped with a large S and 3 different serial# none of which match the receiver serial#.It doesn't have the US flaming bomb although it dose have a barely visible number near the trigger guard
 
could be ,im wanting to take the rifle apart and give it a good cleaning but wondering if i should just leave it as is .should i clean the stock or leave it the way it is .Ill maybe take it down and just clean the metal parts and clean the stock with some furniture polish
 
I would hand rub some linseed oil onto the stock, let it sit for 20 minutes, then buff it off vigorously with some good paper towels. That will rejuvenate the wood and take off the surface dirt without ruining the nice patina.

The metal should be cleaned, absolutely. If there is any active rust, remove it with a brass scraper and then some fins steel wool, spot applied where the corrosion is. For un-rusted areas, WD40 or Hoppes No.9 on an old toothbrush does a good job of cleaning/scrubbing.
 
A number of those rifles were taken into US service; before they were considered as obsolete and trashed or sold...I would think a few would show up from time to time that are not (SA) marked..though every one I have seen were Finnish used examples..
 
just took the rifle down for a cleaning which it well deserved.This one was in storage greese all the metal under the wood was heavily coated with it.All the parts have the same symbol stamped on them a tiny T inside a circle,on the tang there is an R.All the metal looks to be in good condition,the barrel is counter bored with good rifling .Im curious as to how it will shoot
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Numbers matched, no 'metre' sight markings on the side, no wire hanger sling swivels and original stock. Again this was a while ago (about 3 years ago) and it didn't last long.
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Then it sounds like either one of MNs that never left US or maybe even unicorn rifle that went to Russia/Finland and returned back in it's original configurations.
 
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