Remington 200gr. RNs safe in .356Win tube magazine???

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This is a dumb question but I was noticing more gun writers of late (like Mike Venturino) stating that ONLY flat nose bullets should be used in tubular mags. I can find many sources that state it's OK to use Round Nose Bullets with lots of lead exposed like the Remington 200 SP_Core lokt. See picture of several of them retrieved after firing from a Marlin here - http://35cal.com/bullets.html - about 4/5 ths down the page.

Is this a "cover-my-a**" thing or have there been any real mishaps using real lead tipped Round nose bullets in tube mags. Anyone know of any???

I will be using 46 grs. of powder to give me around 2350 fps or more in my 356 (I imagine as I haven't fired/chronographed them yet). I have another reduced load which should just about duplicate 35Rem ballistics with a lesser charge(28.5 grs.) of SR-4759 (Again never tested yet).

Yes I know I can safely use one in the chamber and one in the mag. But I want to put 4 loaded cartridges in the mag!

Thoughts and opinions and any real world experience appreciated!
 
Loaded and shot a lot of RN bullets in a M94 30-30 and never had an incident. I don't believe that a RN bullet would set off a primer no matter how hard it hit it...soft lead, would just flatten a bit on recoil. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
Loaded and shot a lot of RN bullets in a M94 30-30 and never had an incident. I don't believe that a RN bullet would set off a primer no matter how hard it hit it...soft lead, would just flatten a bit on recoil. Regards, Eagleye.
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I agree 100%.

The whole tube mag/pointed bullet thing actually came about from someone dropping a rifle causing a chainfire and was not due to recoil detonating the rounds in the mag.
 
There was an article in Gun Digest a few years ago, the fellow was trying to get chain firing in lever actions by loading the magazine's with pointed bullets. He never did get them to go off. Just don't use fmj pointed bullets or AP .

It seems that using flat or round point bullets in tubulat magazines may be an old shooters story, not backed up by actuall fact. If you doubt it, load up some primed dummys , load yor magazine with them and shoot your rifle with several, or more rounds. Then unload the magazine, and inspect the dummys, you will be surprised with the total lack of indents on the primers, even though the bullet tips may be deformed.
 
Thanks all.

Your comments reinforce my own thinking that RN with lotsa lead exposed are safe in a tube mag.

For years I've used 220 Speer FN and modified 250 Speer Hot Cores (by cutting the tip back to make it a FN-247gr altered). But those cute lil Rem 200RNs are begging to go deer hunting with my 356win/Marlin336ER in few weeks so I'm trying to oblige.

Additional note: This afternoon I took 3 different Rem 200RN loads to the range and fired em off. Loaded the mag up full every time. No problems, everything tickity-boo.
 
Eagleye said:
Loaded and shot a lot of RN bullets in a M94 30-30 and never had an incident. I don't believe that a RN bullet would set off a primer no matter how hard it hit it...soft lead, would just flatten a bit on recoil. Regards, Eagleye.
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Maybe not........ as a while back I bought 200 Speer 150RN to use in my 30/30. After second thoughts I e-mailed Speer and asked about it. The reply was the these bullets were not to be used in a tube magazine under no circumstances whatsoever.

I recommend checking with the bullet manufacturer before preceding. :idea:

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SuperCub said:
I e-mailed Speer and asked about it. The reply was the these bullets were not to be used in a tube magazine under no circumstances whatsoever.
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And lots of gun manufacturers tell you not to use anything but factory ammunition in their guns :roll: .

Unfortunately we live in the golden age of liability so they (the manufacturers) will err to the side of caution above all else.
 
While I have not handloaded any round nose bullets in the tube mags of any of my rifles. I have used round nose factory amo produced by Remington a few years back for the 30-30 with no problems.
There was a test none in Gun Digest a few years ago, where the author purposley detonated a cartridge in a tube mag full of other rounds. All it did was set the bullets back in a couple of the other cartridges. The cartridge that was fired didn't even burn completely. The case ruptured inside the tube mag, and the smokeless powder, not being confined, didn't all burn.
He then proceeded to try to detonate a primer seated in a case held in a vise, by beating a soft point bullet into it, with a hammer. Flattened out the point is all that happened.
Even given all of the above, you won't find me loading spire points in a tube mag. I will however use round noses, if I'm comfortable with the profile.

Use your head. :shock:
 
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