Anyone ever heard of them? ya Mr byrds expedition rifle. I just bought one entirely orig,unbuggered. Now I look on the net and see max values of 3-400. I struggle with that. We turned out M70's like candy and we'll pay two G's for one of them. I struggle to believe that which produced 28000 isnt even worth a third...OPINIONS
remington 30 express thoughts
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They were made between 1926 and 1940. Approximately 22,800 were made in .30-06 Springfield, .25 Rem, .30 Rem, .32 Rem, .35 Rem, 7mm Mauser and .257 Rem-Roberts.
They're a commercial P-17 and are worth a lot more than $400. One U.S. site is asking $1395US to $2450US for a Rem M30. If you got one for $300 or $400 Cdn, you did very well.
They're a commercial P-17 and are worth a lot more than $400. One U.S. site is asking $1395US to $2450US for a Rem M30. If you got one for $300 or $400 Cdn, you did very well.
There is one in my closet. Mine has been rebarreled, now has 24 inch. The original rifle came from the USA in 1929 and has been in the family ever since. The original barrel was 22 inch, had quite a high, gold beaded front sight and a Lyman 48 aperature.
They still resemble the parent P17 too much to be worth a great deal. The original stock is terrible.
They still resemble the parent P17 too much to be worth a great deal. The original stock is terrible.
My Rem. 30 has been an excellent rifle...sure its heavy and certainly not as pretty as others, but it wears a stainless 35 Whelen barrel, a Bishop stock, and a 3x Leupold scope...and put its share of meat in the freezer over the years.
They sure didn't skimp on the stock wood when that one was made.
One of them on the U.S. site has a Lyman #48 target sight on it. The guy is asking $2250US for it. Mind you, he's an antique firearm dealer. He wants $2650US for a 7.62 M1 Rifle. Thinks a Korean War vintage M1 is worth $3950US. Must be the only shop in his area of PA. Wants his customers to make an appointment too.
One of them on the U.S. site has a Lyman #48 target sight on it. The guy is asking $2250US for it. Mind you, he's an antique firearm dealer. He wants $2650US for a 7.62 M1 Rifle. Thinks a Korean War vintage M1 is worth $3950US. Must be the only shop in his area of PA. Wants his customers to make an appointment too.
Nice gun. You almost never see these on CGN - thanks for sharing the pics. These are collector guns, not shooters, although they are worth a lot more in the US than here.
I have a Rem Model 30 (the predecessor to the M30 Express) and there were only about 3000 made.
I have a Rem Model 30 (the predecessor to the M30 Express) and there were only about 3000 made.
I have a M30 Express carbine in 30-06, I originally bought it to turn into yet another big bore, but I haven't started ripping it apart yet. Something about the gun appeals to me. - dan
Sometimes it seems as though prices for older rifles Stateside are crazy.
For example about 10 yrs. ago I saw a chap in an American gun shop fork out $ 2400 for a really beat-up Winchester 71 and about 6 months after I bought one for $ 375 in mint condition here in BC.
For example about 10 yrs. ago I saw a chap in an American gun shop fork out $ 2400 for a really beat-up Winchester 71 and about 6 months after I bought one for $ 375 in mint condition here in BC.
I have a Remington "Model 30-S Express"
I've never really paid it much attention until this post. Upon inspection it looks to have been re barreled to 25-06 with a 1-14 twist.
There aren't any iron sights on it but there is a provision on the receiver for a side mounted sight just in front of the bolt on the right side.
there are also two holes drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver that match up exactly to an old Griff on & Howe side mount I have.
The main reason I took in the rifle, is that it bears a unique scope mount. I won't go into detail on the mount and when I can figure out how to post images I will. The mount was hand made (very well by the way) by an old friend of mine, long since gone, Les Viel. It is marked, "Viel and Field Vernon BC". The rifle was redone by Les in the mid fifties and wears a Weaver K6x, made in El Paso Texas.
By today's standards, the rifle isn't a real tack driver and will only stabilise 100 grn flat base bullets and less. It will hold into an inch with just about any realistic load though.
I like the rifle and I'll bet it has more than a few good stories to tell. It was bought new and spent its life with the buyer "Tiny Ryan" until he passed on and it went to his grandson. I picked it up from him several years go, traded it off and got it back again in another trade. I think I'll keep it this time.
You know, rifles like these ooze history, both from their owners and the rifle's origins. Remington was tooled up for the "P" series rifles and had thousands of left over receivers after WWI. The rifles were well respected and had seen a lot of use by the US expeditionary forces in France.
They needed a new design to sell the public that wasn't going to cost either John Q or Remington to much money, so along came the model 30.
The thing that really bothers me as I age, is what will happen to these fine rifles when we're gone? I look at the offerings of "Tradex" and see so many of the grand old rifles of yesteryear, selling for peanuts. Many of these rifles have been ridden hard and put away wet but are still fine rifles. What happened to the hiers of the original owners? Did they lose interest? Were the rifles government leases, like the Swede 96s?
I would really like to pass my firearms on to my stepson and grandson. He likes firearms and would give them a good home. He just doesn't appreciate what they really are and what they represent. WWI, WWII, Korea and Viet Nam to name a few are just old history lessons that intruded on play time. Maybe in a few years he will realise what he's getting.
bearhunter
I've never really paid it much attention until this post. Upon inspection it looks to have been re barreled to 25-06 with a 1-14 twist.
There aren't any iron sights on it but there is a provision on the receiver for a side mounted sight just in front of the bolt on the right side.
there are also two holes drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver that match up exactly to an old Griff on & Howe side mount I have.
The main reason I took in the rifle, is that it bears a unique scope mount. I won't go into detail on the mount and when I can figure out how to post images I will. The mount was hand made (very well by the way) by an old friend of mine, long since gone, Les Viel. It is marked, "Viel and Field Vernon BC". The rifle was redone by Les in the mid fifties and wears a Weaver K6x, made in El Paso Texas.
By today's standards, the rifle isn't a real tack driver and will only stabilise 100 grn flat base bullets and less. It will hold into an inch with just about any realistic load though.
I like the rifle and I'll bet it has more than a few good stories to tell. It was bought new and spent its life with the buyer "Tiny Ryan" until he passed on and it went to his grandson. I picked it up from him several years go, traded it off and got it back again in another trade. I think I'll keep it this time.
You know, rifles like these ooze history, both from their owners and the rifle's origins. Remington was tooled up for the "P" series rifles and had thousands of left over receivers after WWI. The rifles were well respected and had seen a lot of use by the US expeditionary forces in France.
They needed a new design to sell the public that wasn't going to cost either John Q or Remington to much money, so along came the model 30.
The thing that really bothers me as I age, is what will happen to these fine rifles when we're gone? I look at the offerings of "Tradex" and see so many of the grand old rifles of yesteryear, selling for peanuts. Many of these rifles have been ridden hard and put away wet but are still fine rifles. What happened to the hiers of the original owners? Did they lose interest? Were the rifles government leases, like the Swede 96s?
I would really like to pass my firearms on to my stepson and grandson. He likes firearms and would give them a good home. He just doesn't appreciate what they really are and what they represent. WWI, WWII, Korea and Viet Nam to name a few are just old history lessons that intruded on play time. Maybe in a few years he will realise what he's getting.
bearhunter
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The .30 Express probably had more in common with the M-54 Winchester than with the later rifles. Remington had a bunch of M-17 actions, so "waste not - want not" out came the 30 Express. The stock can and should be replaced, and the irons if retained, should be replaced with a receiver sight and front post. Once upgraded, this rifle has features that IMHO make it superior to many modern rifles.
Jeff Cooper enthusiasts will recall that a M-30 Remington in .30/06 is the rifle he carried in his formative years. With it he killed mountain sheep, grizzly, moose, caribou, and mountain goat in Alberta and in the Yukon. There is no rifle off the shelf today that could of done it better.
Jeff Cooper enthusiasts will recall that a M-30 Remington in .30/06 is the rifle he carried in his formative years. With it he killed mountain sheep, grizzly, moose, caribou, and mountain goat in Alberta and in the Yukon. There is no rifle off the shelf today that could of done it better.
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- Victoria,BC.
Very Nice Model 30 there Asusual, one of the nicer ones I've seen. The few I've seen at shops and shows have been either side of $500. Options and rare calibre would increase value substantially I imagine.
Geoff in Victoria
Geoff in Victoria
Bearhunter, When I used to go into Les Viel's shop, he was almost next to the nice old HBCo. store on the corner. This was late 1960s, maybe into the 1970s.
That old three story Hudson's Bay Co Store was a real relic of the past, with their great outdoor equipment floor.
You should PM me, we may be within "coffee range," of each other!
That old three story Hudson's Bay Co Store was a real relic of the past, with their great outdoor equipment floor.
You should PM me, we may be within "coffee range," of each other!
