Hi guys. I got a smoking hot deal on a used rem 597. The only issue with it is that when the bolt is locked back and I insert a 30rd mag the bolt will not close. the hold open is not being defeated by the mag. The stock 10 rounders have no issues, but the rem 30 rounders all have it. Is this normal or can I fix it? It's not a big deal, but I was curious. also one of the 30 rounders will not engange the last shot hold open and one does. Weak spring or is that another issue?
Remington 597 issue
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Part of the mag must be snagging the hold open mechanisim. Check the mag and compare it with the one that does work properly. There is a tab on the follower that comes up on the outside of the mag that engages the hold open after the last shot has been fired. This tab is part of the follower and therefore moves up and down with it. These aren't exactly the best of quality magazines to start with, much like everything else with the Remington name on it as of late.
Also try sanding down the sides of the mag that actually insert into the mag well so that they aren't so tight and the mags fall out freely when the release is pulled. The extra tension may also be contributing to your problem.
Also try sanding down the sides of the mag that actually insert into the mag well so that they aren't so tight and the mags fall out freely when the release is pulled. The extra tension may also be contributing to your problem.
The easiest way to resolve this is to buy a 10/22...
Well, you could buy a 10/22. Then you can spend twice as much on "accessories" to bring it up to the level of the 597.
The biggest problem with the Remington 597 is the Nut behind the Buttplate. This component has a great failure rate in that it does not fully comprehend and comply with the printed manual that comes with the rifle.
Many people tighten the two screws that hold the guide rods too much, thus bowing the rods and causing failures to function properly. Tighten them finger tight so you can just feel them touch, then back off 1/4 turn. Remington says to tighten them to 10 INCH pounds, which is about 8/10 of one FOOT pound.
If your trigger pull is heavy, you might consider installing a Volquartsen Hammer. This should take it down into the 3 pound range or less. I free floated the barrel on mine, a 10 minute job with a sheet of sandpaper and a spark plug socket.
Go to Rimfirecentral.com and you will find a forum on the 597, along with some other suggestions.
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Aftermarket magazines are worse than the original Remington 30 round magazines.
Not a biggie.. take the steps to close, insert mag, and manually cycle?
The easiest way to resolve this is to buy a 10/22...
Kind of like healing a cold with syphilis...it ain't no cure!
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I seen to recall some issues with the 30 rd mags. You might want to check on this thread at rimfirecentral.com
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417965&highlight=mags
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417965&highlight=mags
It feeds perfectly with the 30 rounders. The LSHO isn't a big deal, but not being able to close the bolt with a mag inserted after the hold open has engaged is annoying. I plan to use it for a few 3gun style matches and if i end up shooting to hold open i don't want to have to close the bolt before i put in a fresh mag. I'd rather dump the mag, throw in a fesh one and slingshot the bolt close and go back to banging away.
This is normal. The 30 round mags do not hold open on the last shot. I was warned of this when I asked for a banana mag. There's nothing wrong with your equipment. Buddy who did buy one (black plastic, 30 rd) confirmed it does not hold open last shot.
I believe it's a minor change on the follower of the 30rd mag that does not engage whatever holds the bolt back after the last shot.
I believe it's a minor change on the follower of the 30rd mag that does not engage whatever holds the bolt back after the last shot.
I'm not overly concerend with the last shot hold open. That's a minor thing.
I'll describe my issue again.
The rifle has no mag in it, the bolt is open. I insert a mag, pull the bolt back it will not go forward.
The rifle has no mag it it, the bolt is closed. I insert a mag, pull the bolt back and it will chamber a round.
That is the real issue i'm trying to sort out. Why won't the bolt close when a mag is inserted while open?
My appologies, I misread your question. I can't say if my buddies has the same issue. When the 30rd mag is empty the bolt is closed. I'll pull it back and do a quick chamber check before putting it down but the bolt is closed when I reinsert the 30rd. I'll fire him a text and see he's home and can check.
I'd appreciate it. perhaps he two issues are connected somehow? The follower does not engage the LSHO, but it also doesn't disengage it? that may be it..?
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Are your magazines Remington made magazine or are they aftermarket magazines made by someone else?
It almost sounds like the spring holding up the hold open device is the problem, or, the hold open device is binding and sticking, not allowing it to disengage.
When the last round is fired, the magazine follower pushes up against the hold open device part which holds the bolt open. Pulling the bolt back slightly if a new magazine has been loaded or with no magazine in the rifle, should allow the spring pressure of the hold open device parts to push the hold open device downwards out of the way of the bolt, allowing the bolt to go forward.
If the bolt is forward, and a loaded magazine is inserted, then the follower is not in contact with the hold open device, and the bolt when pulled back and released will chamber a round, until the last round when the magazine follower engages to hold the bolt open.
Therefore, I would suggest you look at the hold open device spring being too weak, or the parts in the hold open device binding slightly when using a 30 round magazine.
Again, answer the question as to what brand of magazines are you using --Remington large capacity or aftermarket manufacturer. There has been problems with aftermarket magazines. Does this happen with the factory 10 round magazines too?
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Are your magazines Remington made magazine or are they aftermarket magazines made by someone else?
It almost sounds like the spring holding up the hold open device is the problem, or, the hold open device is binding and sticking, not allowing it to disengage.
When the last round is fired, the magazine follower pushes up against the hold open device part which holds the bolt open. Pulling the bolt back slightly if a new magazine has been loaded or with no magazine in the rifle, should allow the spring pressure of the hold open device parts to push the hold open device downwards out of the way of the bolt, allowing the bolt to go forward.
If the bolt is forward, and a loaded magazine is inserted, then the follower is not in contact with the hold open device, and the bolt when pulled back and released will chamber a round, until the last round when the magazine follower engages to hold the bolt open.
Therefore, I would suggest you look at the hold open device spring being too weak, or the parts in the hold open device binding slightly when using a 30 round magazine.
Again, answer the question as to what brand of magazines are you using --Remington large capacity or aftermarket manufacturer. There has been problems with aftermarket magazines. Does this happen with the factory 10 round magazines too?
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i have one 597 that did same thing with factory mags. I replaced it with one from another gun..same thing so what i did i simply removed hold open lever all together. Done. Was never able to figure it what caused it. I don't miss it either.
simple to do.... remove bolts that hold the stock. remove pin that holds the trigger group to receiver, remove hold open and spring. put together in reverse order.
simple to do.... remove bolts that hold the stock. remove pin that holds the trigger group to receiver, remove hold open and spring. put together in reverse order.
Stop telling me to buy a 10/22. The 597 was a steal of a deal and functions perfectly when it comes to what matters, going bang bang bang!
They are remington branded 30 rounders... But I think I know what the problem is. I think it may be missing the hold open spring.
to lock the bolt open with no mag in the rifle I simply pull the bolt back, hold the gun upside-down and release the bolt, it stays back.
The 10 round mags do disengage the LSHO though, however the 30 rounders do not. I bought the gun used, so no manual and have no prior experience with the gun. I assumed that it wasn't supposed to have a spring.
Does a missing spring sound like the problem to you guys?
They are remington branded 30 rounders... But I think I know what the problem is. I think it may be missing the hold open spring.
to lock the bolt open with no mag in the rifle I simply pull the bolt back, hold the gun upside-down and release the bolt, it stays back.
The 10 round mags do disengage the LSHO though, however the 30 rounders do not. I bought the gun used, so no manual and have no prior experience with the gun. I assumed that it wasn't supposed to have a spring.
Does a missing spring sound like the problem to you guys?
