Remington 700 5R Gen ii and Remington 700 LTR differences

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Hey guys

Just looking for a comparison between these two rifles. Looking at purchasing a 308 20" version of one or the other.

As far as I know the newer LTR is cerakoted like the 5r Gen ii and they both use 5R rifling. Both have HS precision stocks and stainless steel barrels. I thought the LTR had a carbon steel barrel, but apparently the newer LTR has a stainless steel barrel.

As far as I can see the only differences are:
Fluted barrel (5R)
Threaded barrel (5R)
Price (5R>LTR)

Someone chime in here if I'm missing some information especially if you have any hands on experience with either of these rifles.

Thanks
Ben
 
700 LTR

Trigger: 40XP Adjustable
Barrel Length: 20"
Twist: 1:10
Barrel Material: fluted Hammer Forged Carbon Steel
Barrel Profile: Varmint
Stock/Chassis: H-S Precision with small palm swell

700 5R gen 2

Trigger: X-Mark Pro
Barrel Length: 20"
Twist: 1:11.25
Barrel Material: Fluted and threaded cold hammer forged Stainless Steel
Barrel Profile: Varmint
Stock/Chassis: H-S Precision with heavy palm swell
 
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I believe the LTR was originally a sniper rifle system for police forces and was made to be more compact.

The main differences are, the 5R Gen2 has a stainless steel barrel and action that the LTR doesn't have. The 5R Gen2 also has a threaded muzzle and a oversized bolt handle and a newer trigger group.
 
Is the stock on the LTR a HS Precision...or a B&C? It looks identical to the B&C that used to come on the Compact Tactical 700.
 
The real question I'm trying to answer is why is the 5R so much more expensive. What sort of advantages am I getting with the 5R.

As far as I have been told the 5R is more of a U shaped grooverather than I_I a groove with 90° corners. The 5R doesn't need cleaning nearly as frequently also since the grooves are not opposite from each other there is less deformation on the projectile. But all my info is second hand. Feel free to correct me someone out there has more accurate information
 
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5R is 5 grooves with 110degree land angles instead of 90 degrees. I would agree (after using a 5r barrel for a few years now) that cleaning is easier.

And from the info Remington provides, they are both H.S precision stocks. different front end length, different palm swell and different grip angle..
 
Another contender to consider is the Remington 700 XCR. They're also stainless, fluted and TryNyte coated. B&C stock model varies depending on if you go 20" or 26".
Downside is no fancy 5r rifling and they're fairly expensive, about the same price as a 5r gen 2. 308 are relatively common, 223 is super rare especially with the 20" barrel.
https://remingtoncanada.com/en/reba...-rifles/model-700-xcr-compact-tactical-detail
https://remingtoncanada.com/en/reba...nterfire-rifles/model-700-xcr-tactical-detail
 
I managed to compare both side by side today. I can confirm both through looking down the barrel and looking at the manual that both barrels have 5R rifling. Apparently the new 700 police rifles have a 20" barrel with 5R rifling. Both stocks are the exact same, minus colour. Both barrels are fluted. The 5R gen II barrel made out of stainless steel, is cerakoted black and has a threaded muzzle. The 700 police is carbon steel, parkerized with no threaded muzzle. Both barrels are 11.25 twist.
I really can't justify spending an extra 700.00 on the extras (cerakote, threaded muzzle). The stainless vs carbon steel argument has been beat to death and although people can still have their views, there has been no conclusive studies to show a significant advantage for the consumer to purchase one vs the other especially when both have protective/oxidized coatings.
Does anyone else have any thoughts?
 
I managed to compare both side by side today. I can confirm both through looking down the barrel and looking at the manual that both barrels have 5R rifling. Apparently the new 700 police rifles have a 20" barrel with 5R rifling. Both stocks are the exact same, minus colour. Both barrels are fluted. The 5R gen II barrel made out of stainless steel, is cerakoted black and has a threaded muzzle. The 700 police is carbon steel, parkerized with no threaded muzzle. Both barrels are 11.25 twist.
I really can't justify spending an extra 700.00 on the extras (cerakote, threaded muzzle). The stainless vs carbon steel argument has been beat to death and although people can still have their views, there has been no conclusive studies to show a significant advantage for the consumer to purchase one vs the other especially when both have protective/oxidized coatings.
Does anyone else have any thoughts?

Well the new Police 700's are a different rifle then the 700LTR. And they do have a different stocks. You could contact Remington or HS precision and ask them the specifics. I know the palm swells are different.

The bolt being cerakoted is a finish that will last longer and same goes for the cerakoting on the barrel and action. they are much more resistant to wear and abuse.
Stainless steel barrels tend to be more resistant to weather (inside the barrel is not coated so for hunting might make a difference there.) But mostly it's personal preference. I personally like stainless as it's easier maintenance for cleaning.

Threaded barrel is something a lot of people are looking for and that costs money. There is also the oversized bolt knob that the police version does not have.
 
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