Remington 700 ADL to detachable magazine

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A few years back I bought an inexpensive ADL long action rifle with the intent of having the receiver/bolt trued for a precision build: Thinking ahead as I like to do, I've been searching for stocks and bottom metal that would require no alteration to the receiver for the conversion. As usual, what I want is not widely available as I avoid the band wagon. I found a small manufacturer in the USA called 'Wyatts Outdoor' that appear to have decent metal for long actions in the sea of short actions: Is anyone familiar with their products? Or decent quality alternatives? (for the following criteria)

- little to no metal removal from the original action - essentially "drop in" to a customized stock inlet.
- standard long action (30-06 Sprg. or the same in Ackley Improved) ~ 208gr VLD bullets... so to accommodate potentially long C.O.A.L.
- five and ten round magazine options
- preferred in steel but stainless steel and primed/flat black aluminum are acceptable.


I've lost hope in finding a stock that meets my limiting requirements so an original stock of my own will probably be on the menu for this winter: But the close to $1000 that the nearest match would cost, can be put toward truing action, 30" 1 in 10" HV contoured barrel + brake, and hardware.

On the subject of barrels: (maybe best posted on the precision forum) I've found varying opinions on Walther polygonal rifled barrels - what experiences are being had from shooters here? Longevity and easier cleaning are apparently virtues of these barrels, but I read 1/10 moa accuracy is traded for this? While this will be acceptable for most of my long distance needs, my shooting continues to improve so I don't want to "outgrow" the accuracy of one component.
 
No ten round magazine option. An unpinned 10 round mag will be denied entry by Canada Customs.
No exports over $100US(actually $500US for Canada) from Wyatt's. Call 'em though.
 
Most bottom metal doesn't need to alter the receiver, just the stock needs to be inletted. Badger ordinance bottom metal is supposed to be bolt in, and Seekins is also supposed to just bolt in. Both take ACIS mags. which are readily available, (and yes you can get 10 shot mags, ignore Sunray). ATRS also used to make their own bottom metal (I don't know if they still do but I always find them very pricey)
 
I have put several DMs onto rem actions. Very minor fitting into HS precision stocks, usually just the corners close to the trigger.

For hunting style rifles I prefer to use the bottom metal and Mag that Remington puts on the factory DMs, they are longer than anything else on the market..... Ie; kwick clip etc.

For bottom metal on tactical and bench style firearms, I like to use CDI bottoms metal. Jerry at Mystic precision (site sponsor) is a distributor. Tell him what ya have for a action and he can get the goods for ya! CDI also takes Accurate mags, which retail for $60-100, single stack and 5 & 10 rounders are available. Usually Wolverine has mags in stock (site sponsor).

Another bottom metal to consider is the badger arms offering, but I have never met anyone using one whom didn't have to do a bit more fitting than the CDI. I have no idea who even sells the Badger.

ATRS (another site sponsor) has a proprietary bottom metal that works really well, but they prefer to install it, iirc......

Some more to chew on!

Cheers!
 
+1 on CDI.

I've gotten their kits for a Savage 110 and a Ruger 77 myself thru Mystic Precision.

110 installed, works fine. 77 install pending, took delivery just this week.

AICS and the Ruger metal clones are the easiest mags to get.
Since they latch differently than say the M14 pattern no issues with 10 round units in Canada.
 
Thank you for the replies, I'll check out those options. I did contact a gunsmith (who builds very nice target rifles on 700 actions - enjoyed one for a couple hundred rounds) back in 2012 with the request to call me back when he is not inundated with work... with writing, smithing, training etc. he no doubt is inundated with work so I have been keeping an eye out for other reputable gunsmiths who will not give my action the half-arsed "truing": Jerry is one who came to mind (Yodave?) right away... his CZ452 trigger kit turned my good THV into a beautiful shooter, and he is knowledgeable on the components I seek.

EDIT: Oops, Yodave and Mystic are not one and the same.
 
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If you're looking for a gunsmith to do your build, Casey at Tacord is your guy. You're from Ont. he is in Newmarket. He will recommend you a good bottom metal
 
dogzilla said:
If you're looking for a gunsmith to do your build, Casey at Tacord is your guy. You're from Ont. he is in Newmarket. He will recommend you a good bottom metal
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I need a gunsmith to true the 700 bolt/action and install a new 30" braked match barrel, chambered in 30-06 or 30-06 IA. I couldn't find a manufactured stock that is exactly what I need, so having to build another stock, it is not a great effort also having to inlet the stock for the bottom metal. I just found Tacord's webpage and linked to Seekins metal components - as I found in other searches, unfortunately "Long Action" often refers to larger diameter 300WM, 338LM etc. not the .470" head/rim and action bolt spacing of the standard LA 30-06. This irritation kept cropping up the past couple weeks I've been reading and searching. Of course he isn't limited to Seekins products and the bottom metal doesn't prevent him from doing the smith work... still far enough from Kingston that I'd end up relying on the mail for at least one trip.

Slightly off topic, your signature line reminds me of 'The hoary head is a crown of glory, if it be found in the way of righteousness.' Proverbs 16:31. "Hoary" is simply gray hair (age implied)... is synonymous with intelligence, something to be respected provided the head beneath is full of wisdom, not rocks.
 
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I would e mail Casey, his web site just covers a small portion of what he does. Believe me he can really help you out or at the very least give you advice.
 
notsorichguy said:
I have put several DMs onto rem actions. Very minor fitting into HS precision stocks, usually just the corners close to the trigger.

For hunting style rifles I prefer to use the bottom metal and Mag that Remington puts on the factory DMs, they are longer than anything else on the market..... Ie; kwick clip etc.

For bottom metal on tactical and bench style firearms, I like to use CDI bottoms metal. Jerry at Mystic precision (site sponsor) is a distributor. Tell him what ya have for a action and he can get the goods for ya! CDI also takes Accurate mags, which retail for $60-100, single stack and 5 & 10 rounders are available. Usually Wolverine has mags in stock (site sponsor).

Another bottom metal to consider is the badger arms offering, but I have never met anyone using one whom didn't have to do a bit more fitting than the CDI. I have no idea who even sells the Badger.

ATRS (another site sponsor) has a proprietary bottom metal that works really well, but they prefer to install it, iirc......

Some more to chew on!

Cheers!
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Did you have to modify the feed rails on the action to get the factory DBM to function or did only the stock need modification? This is something I might look into.
 
hunter5425 said:
Did you have to modify the feed rails on the action to get the factory DBM to function or did only the stock need modification? This is something I might look into.
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It takes a bit of fiddling to get the DM high enough to feed and enough clearance to not impact the feed lips on the bottom of the ADL/BDL action.... There are a lot of folks out there who believe that the feed lips on the bottom of a ADL/BDL action need to be removed, but I haven't run into one..... I have done 9 DM conversions on LA & SA Remington actions.

In that one regard the Kwick-clip is better as it feeds from a single centre position in the mag, so it fits between the factory feed lip rails in the action. The Remington mags are a true double stack design and feed from both the left and right sides.

Remington factory DM rifles do not have feed lips on the action and this does promote better feeding, or perhaps I should say more reliable feeding as the mag sits higher thus allowing more of the cartridge case to be pushed forward by the bolt.....

But by no means is it required. Now if I was building a dangerous game rifle that absolutely had to work when I rolled the bolt..... Then maybe it would be advisable.

But I'm not sure I would build a dangerous game rifle on a Rem 700 action.... And that's a whole other conversation!
 
hunter5425 said:
Did you have to modify the feed rails on the action to get the factory DBM to function or did only the stock need modification? This is something I might look into.
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That option remains open to me as well: Detachable mags for the 700, 742 and 760 are widely available in all action lengths and capacities I want. Still, I'd rather avoid having to bubba my rifle's receiver...
 
On my Remmy, I'm rocking BOTH Badger Ordnance M5 AND CDI Precision (from Jerry T or MysticPlayer). Most happy with both brands. :)

And on the topic of magazines, I've had great success with AICS and Accurate Mag and MDT Tac in Stabbotsford, BC. Local joke for you BC dudes! :cool:

Right now I'm running some of Lazlo's (MDT founder) polymer magazines in .308 and .223. Most happy. :) They were made just for FDE color lovers like myself! Head over to his site and have a look; www.mdttac.ca and get ready to spend some $$ on them polymer magazines. I like them better for the winter time (coyote hunting). :cool:

Hope this helps the M700 addiction...

cheers,
Barney
 
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