Remington 700 LTR vs. P

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I know a bunch of you have either of these guns.

I am just finishing up university and once I get some income I'll be on the market for either of these rifles.

Anyone favour one of the above over the other? Pros? Cons?

I'm looking to fit it with a muzzle brake sometime after that and the usual scope and bi-pod.

Also will be looking to get it chambered for something above .223. Probably.308win or something around there.
 
I'm getting a Police myself. The LTR has a much shorter barrel and is quite a bit lighter. I don't think I'd get such a rifle chambered in .223 myself, seems kinda like a waste unless you're varmint hunting or something like that.

-Rohann
 
The LTR in 308 is a great rifle for 5 to 600 yard work, very handy in the bush due to the 20" barrel, for longer range work I would suggest the 700P with the 26" tube to get as much velocity as possible for the longer shots.
Both shoot very well, both really need to be bedded and floated for optimum performance and the triggers a set real stiff from factory, which is a simple alteration.
 
I have an ltr in 308. Use it for hunting, for predator/gopher, and at the range.

I have several K rounds through it. Love it. As ATR says, handy to swing in the bush, but yet thick enough barreled to be shot quickly at the range without barrel heat becomming an issue. If this barrel goes South, I'd either get ATR to put on another 20 inch similar weight barrel, or buy another of the same rifle new. I don't see a bunch of problems with the rifle.
 
Good to know.

Does 6" difference in barrel length honestly make a difference in the bush? I know the ballistics differences, but for ergonomic purposes does it really make that much of a difference.

Curious about the weight though. I am planning on using the gun for both target range shooting and hunting, So I wouldn't mind being able to carry it with me for some distances. But all in all, I'd prefer accuracy over anything. I'm not exactly looking to championship grade clusters in my targets at 600yds, but something respectable.
 
Bought an LTR from Rick last year for my dad for his birthday, had Rick do one if his superd trigger jobs and install a Badger bolt knob, it is a fantastic gun. Topped it with a Bushnell 10X mounted with a MSP base and FA rings. My dad loves it, I do not think he would trade it for a 700P, just a lot easier to handle and accurate enough for shooting out to 600 yards.
 
cerickson said:
Good to know.

Does 6" difference in barrel length honestly make a difference in the bush? I know the ballistics differences, but for ergonomic purposes does it really make that much of a difference.

Curious about the weight though. I am planning on using the gun for both target range shooting and hunting, So I wouldn't mind being able to carry it with me for some distances. But all in all, I'd prefer accuracy over anything. I'm not exactly looking to championship grade clusters in my targets at 600yds, but something respectable.
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The LTR was pretty much designed to be a utilitarian police tactical type rifle. Short enough to be easy to carry and handle, yet precise enough to do the job out to reasonable distances. 308 was also designed to be used in shorter barreled rifles, so the rifle and cartridge are a good match.
For a hunter/fun paper killer , they are hard to beat. The loss of velocity from the 26" will not really be noticed with your intended purpose.
The extra 6" of tube is nicer for bench work as the mild recoil is even milder due to the added frontal weight of more barrel
I can see little gain of a brake on 1 of these, the recoil is light to say the least, but if you need to have 1 I would love the added income;)
 
A brake on a .308 wouldn't be required. It's not even bad to shoot without a recoil pad, even when prone.

-Rohann
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Could not agree more, shot a 700 P.308 in F factory,part of last year. Worked well and recoil was not a factor. Once I found the right load, V's were not that hard to get and the rifle was quite competitive. Given the price difference between it and my F open gun it was a lot of bang for the buck.

Andy
 
I shot 60+ rounds with a .308 while shooting with the BCRA (it was way too hot for a shooting jacket), and it didn't bother me at all. Just make sure you don't get your eye too close to the scope;).

-Rohann
 
Basic law of physics..Longer barrel= more velocity= more accurate for long distance shoots.
P is a bit heavier thus more stable & less movement.
 
Airborn 69,

Not ridin' you, the smile did not come up.

I agree with you:

I'll also take my Versa Poded Savage 10FP McMillan with Leupold tactical scope and TPS base/ rings over your 700 anytime!

And I switched from a 700 to the 10FP, no regrets.

Steve
 
Steve David said:
Airborn 69,

Not ridin' you, the smile did not come up.

I agree with you:

I'll also take my Versa Poded Savage 10FP McMillan with Leupold tactical scope and TPS base/ rings over your 700 anytime!

And I switched from a 700 to the 10FP, no regrets.

Steve
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Glad to see you made the switch, I had no regrets on my decision. I still have to wait to get bedded a McMillan A5 or HS prec stock on mine..
Steve also.
 
Hi Cerikson
I would say in a .308 calibre it all comes down to if you plan on using this rifle as a target rifle at a range or carrying it around/hunting with it. I have both rifles and find the LTR to be a real joy to handle and carry in the mountains and in dense forest compared to my 700P 300 Win. Mag. Having said that the 700P rides a bag better, has less felt recoil (due to weight). Another consideration is that some people hate the 700P's pistol grip style palm swell were as the LTR is very much akin to a traditional rifle stock however slightly more vertical. If you are considering a .223 cal. for sure go with the LTR due to recoil is no longer a consideration and the LTR stock still rides a bag almost as good as the 700P stock. Both have the extra attachment studs for that bipod you were talking about. Far as muzzle breaks go...I wouldn’t bother with one on a .308 700P due to the weight of the rifle makes it a pussy cat to shoot. I also find the LTR to be a very mild recoiling rifle as well. What ever you do buy from an excellent dealer such as Wolverine Supplies or Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply as quality control issues are of a major concern with Remington. It’s nice to have some one that will make sure you’re getting a quality product and will go to bat for you if you are not satisfied. I don't mean to start a debate on Rem. rifles just seen and bought 700's that had some really poor machine and assembly work. It’s usually minor stuff but should not happen never the less. I honestly think if you are wanting tactical heavier style 700P .308 rifle, you should also consider the Savage 10FPLE. If you want a light handy rifle the 700LTR is a good choice. Just my 2cents.
 
Thanks a lot for the run down.

When I do make my mind and have the funds available I will likely go with ATR. They sound like a good bunch of guys.

What you say about the different stocks, I'll have to head out to a gun shop that have them and have a feel for both.

Now, the 700p is 9lbs, and the 700LTR is 7.5lbs. Is the pound and a half difference that significant?

Plus, there is a possiblity that in the future I might be interested in getting a different stock for it like an AICS, McMillan, or Robertson, which is an entirely different issue, but they are all made to be compatible with the Rem 700 rifles, so thats why i'm going with those as opposed to the Savage 10fp, which I'm sure is a nice gun as well.

So far the LTR is sounding nice, but for the extra velocity and stability the P is also sounding very nice as well.
 
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