Remington 700 LTR vs. P
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I dont think it is.cerickson said:
I have a P and i love it. Recoil is so low that there is only a slight jump to the left when i shoot, barely no recoil. I can still see the target at 100yds at 12x after the shot, in fact. Just for that, i think it's worth getting the P.
But if i wasto get a .223 rifle, i think i'd go with the LTR, as the cartridge and the rifle would fit better in my opinion
I have an LTR and use for your intended purpose of both hunting and target shooting.
Even the LTR with 20" barrel and 1.5 lbs lighter is in my opinion tougher to shoot accuratly standing than your average lightweight sporting rifle. The LTR still has a heavy barrel which seems to pull more of the weight forward. I would not be worried so much about the weight to carry the rifle it is more about being able to shoot it standing which is what a lot of hunting involves.
As far as velocity goes with some factory you are not going to see much difference from normal velocities. For example i get about 2600 fps out of federal GMM in 168 gr (they claim 2600 fps out of a 24" barrel) and similar for Lapua factory 168 gr. I have also chronoed some factory 150 gr at a little more than 2800 fps
Handloading you will see more of a differnce. With 165 gr hunting loads i get around 2500 fps at max loads or close to it with Varget.
It does not sound like your budget will allow for two guns, however this is what I would recommend. The P would be great for bench work as well as hunting where you get set up somewhere and are shooting a little more long range. A sporting type carbine would be the best for tromping around in the bush. The LTR is sort of a compromise, it does niether as well as the guns mentioned but can be used to do both.
I use my LTR hunting in a spot along a pole line where i have clear shots out to almost 300M. For the thick bush i have other rifles although last year i used the LTR for both.
Send me a PM if you want anymore info on the LTR
Even the LTR with 20" barrel and 1.5 lbs lighter is in my opinion tougher to shoot accuratly standing than your average lightweight sporting rifle. The LTR still has a heavy barrel which seems to pull more of the weight forward. I would not be worried so much about the weight to carry the rifle it is more about being able to shoot it standing which is what a lot of hunting involves.
As far as velocity goes with some factory you are not going to see much difference from normal velocities. For example i get about 2600 fps out of federal GMM in 168 gr (they claim 2600 fps out of a 24" barrel) and similar for Lapua factory 168 gr. I have also chronoed some factory 150 gr at a little more than 2800 fps
Handloading you will see more of a differnce. With 165 gr hunting loads i get around 2500 fps at max loads or close to it with Varget.
It does not sound like your budget will allow for two guns, however this is what I would recommend. The P would be great for bench work as well as hunting where you get set up somewhere and are shooting a little more long range. A sporting type carbine would be the best for tromping around in the bush. The LTR is sort of a compromise, it does niether as well as the guns mentioned but can be used to do both.
I use my LTR hunting in a spot along a pole line where i have clear shots out to almost 300M. For the thick bush i have other rifles although last year i used the LTR for both.
Send me a PM if you want anymore info on the LTR
You make some good points too.
I honestly think I will be more than happy with either rifle. I will be buying other firearms in the future, but I am planning on making this one into my primary gun that I will be putting more money and effort into customizing, etc.
What I will do is get to a gun shop that has them and get a feel for both. I will also probably end up getting a robertson stock for it, which will change the weight as well.
I honestly think I will be more than happy with either rifle. I will be buying other firearms in the future, but I am planning on making this one into my primary gun that I will be putting more money and effort into customizing, etc.
What I will do is get to a gun shop that has them and get a feel for both. I will also probably end up getting a robertson stock for it, which will change the weight as well.
