remington 700 sps varminter 223

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hi, i am hoping to get some feedback on the remington 700 sps varminter for. i am curious on the groupings i could get with this gun out of the box. any input would be appreciated.
 
I have this exact rifle. I shoot it stock with a Bushnell Elite 3200.

At 100 yards on a bench (or bipod) with standard American Eagle FMJ 55g I shoot about 4 shots in an inch.

I do not know what this is in MOA.

I have not had a chance to shoot it really past 100 yards unfortunately.

I don't really get fliers in the group, and although lots of people call for a stock change-out, I don't see a need to for myself at this time. If anything more practise and maybe match ammo would improve it but the .223 has such little kick I don't think the stock flexes too much as it is.
 
It is a crap shoot. Some Remingtons shoot REALLY well and some are complete CRAP. There is no way to know till you sit down and shoot the thing.

At 100 yards on a bench (or bipod) with standard American Eagle FMJ 55g I shoot about 4 shots in an inch.

and although lots of people call for a stock change-out, I don't see a need to for myself at this time.

Uhhh the mere fact your rifle is shooting only 1 MOA at 100 yds would seem to be a perfect argument for ditching the OEM stock and getting the rifle bedded into something better.
 
Mine in 204 was mediocre at best. Usually MOA was not achievable. I spent too much time and money trying to make that gun shoot better and I eventually gave up.

My main complaint was the rifle was so barrel heavy it was impossible to carry it out on the field to shoot gophers. Way to clumsy IMO.
 
Uhhh the mere fact your rifle is shooting only 1 MOA at 100 yds would seem to be a perfect argument for ditching the OEM stock and getting the rifle bedded into something better.

like I said though I think I can tighten that up by more practise or better bullets alone, without having to spend several hundred more on a stock.
 
I think I can tighten that up by more practise or better bullets alone, without having to spend several hundred more on a stock.

You can deny and delay all you want but it isn't going to change the fact that to get better accuracy and consistency that plastic stock needs to end up in the garbage. It is gonna happen sooner or later so why waste time and energy fighting the inevitable?

If those stocks were any good wouldn't you expect to see lots of them on super accurate sniper and long range rifles? Doesn't the fact that you don't see, not a single serious shooter using such a stock tell you something?
 
I've been shooting that exact rifle for a year now. The stock is perfectly adequate for a regular person with average vision shooting from a reasonably steady rest on a day where the air is not completely motionless. Spend the cash on lots of ammunition or ammo components, and (for every hour spent on CGN) spend three hours shooting somewhere nice!!
 
My nephew has a .204. I can shoot good groups with it but i have shot alot. He cannot get it to shoot consistant. The stock is way, way to flimsy, when you can move the fore stock back and forth and touch the barrel that says something. He just bought a H-S stock off a rem police so we will see if that helps him. Another thing I noticed is the the rifle has no balance, way too nose heavy to carry IMO. I just bought a Sako 85 varmit and it feels way better.
 
I've been shooting that exact rifle for a year now. The stock is perfectly adequate for a regular person with average vision shooting from a reasonably steady rest on a day where the air is not completely motionless.

What we are discussing has nothing to do with how the stock fits the shooter. It has everything to do with how the stock fits the rifle. That plastic POS stock cannot be bedded and it is so flexible the rifle will continuously move in the stock meaning the rifle will experience different pressures at different points on the receiver.

THAT is what buggers up accuracy and is why we bed rifles in the first place.
 
i have this in 223 i shoot under a inch with my reloads and i have yet to play with powder charge bullet ect .

i know that the bolt needs work as the firing pin is to big for the pin

other wise i like it
 
700 sps 223

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This target was shot with a Rem 700 SPS, sporter, topped with a Hawke Airmax SR 6-18x44 and using range pickup brass which accounts for the fliers. I zeroed for the 50 Speer TNT at 400 meters using the SR reticle. The 33 Speer TNT Zeroed at 100 yards using the 100 yard wind-age circle on the etched glass SR reticle and was devastating at that range. Even with a bit of a cross wind I could do better than 60% on gopher silhouettes at 400 meters from the bi-pod.

I am a serious shooter, hand loader, and use this to show that the stock 700 SPS can be made to shoot. Just make sure that you have even pressure on both sides of the barrel at the pressure point located just back of the front of the forearm. Don't remove the pressure point. If the stock is severely warped it should be replaced. Make sure that the action screws are hand tight (30 to no more than 35 inch pounds).
 
The sps my nefew has in 204 didn't shoot worth crap, over a inch at 100, he put on a stock off a police model, h-s and still didn't help. We seated the bullets out to the rifling and now it's shoots cloverleafs but the bullet is so far out now that it is barely in the case.
 
I hear all of you about taking the time to make the boomstick shoot. I've got 2 of the SPS rifles right now. And yup, they are in the cheapie factory plastic stocks. :D I don't mind.

I quite enjoy all the tinkering and handloading necessary to get these babies to shoot tight groups. I've had super success getting under an inch with sporter barrel setups as well as 3/4" groups out of the SPS Varmint and SPS Tactical renditions. It's quite satisfying to discover each of the rifle's sweet spot. Hey, what do you expect for a $ 600ish rifle these day? All part of the hobby's great fun.

Yeah, the stock can suck, but frankly there is a reason that Remmy can meet that price point and get you an M700 for that $$ level. Once you get that rifle shooting, it's a joy realizing that you CAN do it!

Now you have the experience and springboard (jumping off point) to build your custom boomstick. Makes that new build more satisfying! ;)

:cheers:

Barney
 
I used to have a .243 (not in this rifle) and it shot AMAZING! I plan on getting one of these in .243 to plink with. Lots of aftermarket stuff and you can strengthen the forearm with a carbon arrow shaft.
 
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