Dukeoflawnchair
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I couldn't find any definitive information between the two aside from owners from both camps seeming reasonably content, so I ended up buying both and seeing how they both handled. This is just my initial observation between the factory components of these two - so just my 0.02.
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My original goal was to build a non-restricted Liberal gun ban resistant black rifle, but wasn't sure which platform to play with.
At the moment, the PAR is stock with an ACOG mated.
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The 7615p has an ATI side folder, a Lumley Arms forend adapter (to fit a 12ga 870 forend) and the Surefire LED. It's topped with a Bushnell 1-4 AR223.
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Of course, the AR223 and the ACOG aren't in the playing field when it comes to optics...though both worked well enough to hit the 50m gong 10/10.
Initial observations:
Trigger - The PAR is quite sloppy. It has some creep and a little uneven "mush" before heavy final resistance. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the 7615p has a much crisper trigger pull. Of course, both can be upgraded with a myriad of aftermarket kits, though the factory Remington takes this one.
Handling - *comparing with the factory 7615p forend - the Surefire is cool and all, but the adapter and setup adds a lot of weight to the forend - makes the rifle feel more like a club*. Even without the cumbersome forend, the PAR is lighter, more compact, and adjusts more conveniently to an ergonomic design. I'm much more familiar with the old 870 controls, but the PAR is a quick and easy adjustment. The PAR takes this one, imho.
Cycling - 100 rounds each, no cleaning, 4 different types of factory ammo with 4 different proven mags. The 7615p ate everything and cycled with definitive extraction and lock up every time. The PAR was not nearly as smooth - often not being quite locked up despite a good heft. It needs a strong jam to close, and occasionally a second half - cycle to chamber and lock up properly. Unsure if this will smooth out with more use, but the simplicity of the Remington takes this one.
That's all I've got for the moment - will post some accuracy details once I get even optics setup for both.
I couldn't find any definitive information between the two aside from owners from both camps seeming reasonably content, so I ended up buying both and seeing how they both handled. This is just my initial observation between the factory components of these two - so just my 0.02.
Untitled by Dukeoflawnchair, on FlickrMy original goal was to build a non-restricted Liberal gun ban resistant black rifle, but wasn't sure which platform to play with.
At the moment, the PAR is stock with an ACOG mated.
Untitled by Dukeoflawnchair, on FlickrThe 7615p has an ATI side folder, a Lumley Arms forend adapter (to fit a 12ga 870 forend) and the Surefire LED. It's topped with a Bushnell 1-4 AR223.
Untitled by Dukeoflawnchair, on FlickrOf course, the AR223 and the ACOG aren't in the playing field when it comes to optics...though both worked well enough to hit the 50m gong 10/10.
Initial observations:
Trigger - The PAR is quite sloppy. It has some creep and a little uneven "mush" before heavy final resistance. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the 7615p has a much crisper trigger pull. Of course, both can be upgraded with a myriad of aftermarket kits, though the factory Remington takes this one.
Handling - *comparing with the factory 7615p forend - the Surefire is cool and all, but the adapter and setup adds a lot of weight to the forend - makes the rifle feel more like a club*. Even without the cumbersome forend, the PAR is lighter, more compact, and adjusts more conveniently to an ergonomic design. I'm much more familiar with the old 870 controls, but the PAR is a quick and easy adjustment. The PAR takes this one, imho.
Cycling - 100 rounds each, no cleaning, 4 different types of factory ammo with 4 different proven mags. The 7615p ate everything and cycled with definitive extraction and lock up every time. The PAR was not nearly as smooth - often not being quite locked up despite a good heft. It needs a strong jam to close, and occasionally a second half - cycle to chamber and lock up properly. Unsure if this will smooth out with more use, but the simplicity of the Remington takes this one.
That's all I've got for the moment - will post some accuracy details once I get even optics setup for both.
