Remington 870 - please recommend model
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Get a combo with a deer barrel that has rifle sights but is cylinder bore and a 28 inch barrel. You can swap for clays/hunting to deer hunting/security.
Stick with 3".
I believe they offer this combo in synthetic and laminate furniture.
Stick with 3".
I believe they offer this combo in synthetic and laminate furniture.
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I would say one of the "Tactical" models with the Knoxx stock as you said it is for a she. The stock will shorten giving her a better fit and absorb much of the recoil. All the tactical models have extended mag tubes and most have 18" barrels, which combined sith the stock should give that "tact-cool" look out of the box. Throw in a sidesaddle as a stocking stuffer (along with some ammo) and you should have it covered.
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As she needs/wants to do other activies with it she can get the parts, such as another barrel later for the hunting and trap shooting.
I believe that they make a 20 gauge youth/ ladies gun with a 21" barrel and shorter stock for smaller framed shooters, I'd buy that and a magazine tube extension. It'll cover all the bases you want for now and has mild recoil, also if you later want to hunt deer with it slug barrels are common and fairly inexpensive.
Ellwood Epps has the Mossberg 500 3 barrel sets on for just a tad over $510.00. 23" turkey barrel (vent rib, XX turkey choke)
23" fully rifled barrel
28" vent rib, 3 choke tubes.
Black
Add a side saddle and this should pretty much cover all the bases.
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get the s&w 3000 on ee, 250 bucks, its an 870 clone, cycles awesome, I find it more solid than the 870 remmy.
Will take nicely to black makeup , and a short barrel.
Will take nicely to black makeup , and a short barrel.
Let her view all the different models avalible and pick the one that stands out for her. You can always pick another barrel up later to add to the use of the 870. If you get a short barrel one< (18") get the ghost ring sights with it and maybe a 26" barrel for hunting. 3" chamber would be good as you can use the 2 3/4 and 3" shells with that. A few questions now would be great before you shop. Get it in 12ga!
A less expensive choice is a http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=18&cat=3&page=1
A less expensive choice is a http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=18&cat=3&page=1
I agree no sense buying her a gun she won't like, let her pick it out. Let her go to a gun shop and put them to her shoulder. They will explain it all right in front of her.
I big gift certificate in a card and a purchase experience with her own input sounds like a winner.
manbearpig
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this is the perfect ladies home defense/hunting/plinking shotgun
870 20 gauge compact, 18.5" barrel with remchokes, knoxx recoil-reducing SpecOps collapsible stock.
*cough* also makes a great grouse gun for the menfolk
While the Knoxx stocks are fantastic (especially on a 12g with 3" slugs), keep her away from pistols grips at first. Let her learn on a straight stock first, and then transition to a pistol grip if she wants. All you need is an Allen key, and you can shop the EE for pistol grips and Knoxx stocks.
And go for a 12 g, not a 20. 12g isn't really that bad, and if its too much kick for her, she can always buy the Remington reduced-recoil shells. You can make a full day at the range with reduced recoil shells.
And go for a 12 g, not a 20. 12g isn't really that bad, and if its too much kick for her, she can always buy the Remington reduced-recoil shells. You can make a full day at the range with reduced recoil shells.
manbearpig
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why is that?
if you hand a gun noob a firearm, youll notice that they will instinctively hold a pistol gripped gun properly and a lot more securely. ive seen people pick up something like a standard stocked 870 and hold them in the wierdest ways - one chick shouldered an 870 like a bazooka
now obviously shooting form is highly correctable and how someone first picks up a gun is pretty irrelevant to how theyll be shooting a few hours/days/weeks down the road..... but i find that newer shooters are much more comfortable with pistol gripped stocks for some reason.
for this application other major benefits of the Knoxx stock would be adjustable length of pull down to about 12", as well as the recoil-damping.
if you hand a gun noob a firearm, youll notice that they will instinctively hold a pistol gripped gun properly and a lot more securely. ive seen people pick up something like a standard stocked 870 and hold them in the wierdest ways - one chick shouldered an 870 like a bazooka
now obviously shooting form is highly correctable and how someone first picks up a gun is pretty irrelevant to how theyll be shooting a few hours/days/weeks down the road..... but i find that newer shooters are much more comfortable with pistol gripped stocks for some reason.
for this application other major benefits of the Knoxx stock would be adjustable length of pull down to about 12", as well as the recoil-damping.
this is the perfect ladies home defense/hunting/plinking shotgun
870 20 gauge compact, 18.5" barrel with remchokes, knoxx recoil-reducing SpecOps collapsible stock.
*cough* also makes a great grouse gun for the menfolk
The forend is also longer on these new 870 "compact" models. That could be easier to operate for a women or someone with short arms:
Barrel length can be shooter dependent. For example I hunt ducks and prefer the longer barrel lengths. I shoot 28 and 30" very well, but shoot 26" poorly. I prefer 28" for upland game and I can do pretty well on the skeet range with 28 and 30" compared to 26 or shorter. Supposedly the longer barrels give better follow through and for me it works.
Deer barrels tend to be between 20" and 23". I'm not sure who decided this was the perfect length but it does seem to work fine. Deer barrels are pretty much the only barrels you would want rifling in as sabot slugs need rifling to stabilize them. Shot through a rifled barrel doesn't work well. Some deer barrels are smooth or cylinder bore. These are intended for "rifled slugs" or buckshot. FWIW, a rifled slug barrel with good quality sabot slugs can give near rifle accuracy out to and beyond 100 yards.
A true tactical shotgun is quite a bit different than a sporting gun. It is designed to work in extreme situations such as home invasion. The foreends tend to be shorter and trimmer to prevent snagging. Remington 870 foreends tend to cover part of the receiver/loading ramp area when the action is open. This is not the best in a tactical situation. A light is often attached near the muzzle and may be triggered by a pressure pad located near or on the grip or simply turned on at the light itself. Large capacity magazines are used (7+ rounds plus one in the chamber). Extra rounds are usually carried in a side side and/or in a special buttstock (Speedfeed I). A sling is often used. Finish tends to be matte and a dark colour. Barrel length tends to be short, 20" or less) and typically uses cylinder bore as the shotgun is intended for close combat purposes.
12 ga Remington 870s accept a huge amount of aftermarket accessories, stocks etc. If the accessory says it is for an 12 ga 870 chances are very good it will fit most if not all 12 ga 870s.
Swapping barrels is usually a very simple and quick operation, however carrying extra barrels with you in the field probably isn't the best idea.
I've rambled on long enough, feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss this more.
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yeah, if she has T-rex arms its a definite plus
for me its an annoyance, but i cant find a standard length 20 gauge forend for the life of me.
