Remington 870 shorty question

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Hi,

I wanted to do a new build but I'm wondering if I used a pistol grip with AR15 buffer tuber and stock with a shorter barrel 12.5 inch would that change status to restricted due to overall length? What I want to do is have the shortest barrel using extendable stock while it remains as non-restricted. If 14 is the shortest I can live with that, just concern with the classification. I understand using a full fixed stock but that is not what I want; I appreciate any help :)
 
^^^what enefgee said is bang on, my 12.5" grizzly with Mesa LEO stock collapsed all the way is 4.5" longer than legal OAL. The 8.5" grizzly will be 1/2" longer OAL with the same stock fully collapsed.
 
What do you plan on using the shotgun for?

The reason I ask is that I have a Remington 870 with a 12" Dlask barrel on it and it kicks harder than any shotgun I have ever handled, and that is with a Magpul stock (3 spacers..I am a yard ape). Short barrels are great for predator control shotguns where you might have to put 2-3, 3" mag 00 Buck at a black bear. As a home defense shotgun it is good too (Canadian laws aside - no castle law). In both situations you will will be using what is in it and on it (capacity and shells held on in holders). Your adrenaline won't notice the trauma of your less than ideal stance and hold, especially when you don't extend the collapsible stock before shouldering and firing (complex motor skill). I had an AR style pistol grip stock on my Mossberg 500 and did not care for it, and I have been shooting AR style rifles since 1990 as part of my job. Stocks designed for 5.56mm AR's don't always optimally translate to 12ga shotguns

For everything else, go with a 20" or more. The difference between my Mossberg 500 (20" barrel with 7 shot tube) and my Remington 870 (12" barrel 4 shot tube) in recoil and follow on shot acquisition is noticeable when firing them back to back. I have spent a lot of time behind 12ga shotguns (skeet, hunting, target, military) and if you are building a shotgun for practical use then I would suggest setting it up for a simple grab-rack-hold-aim-fire system. If you are just wanting a neat build then hey, do what ever you want and have fun (I may have built less than practical systems myself;).
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Currently I have a Benelli M2 with 21" barrel with all the neat upgrades for 3-gun; whenever I decide I go to play with it or not. Barrel length like 18.5 to 21 isn't issue to me in general if I were to grab one on the go for scenario bases. But after seeing many shorty 870 and MCS breacher shotgun I was compel to build one for my liking. Then Tacord show off their build and I was like, okay I'll definitely build one.

However, searching for a short barrel for the 870 was pain in the butt, especially I had a budget to work with. Then Dlask got their barrel made, once again I had the idea floating again. So I asked some of you guys before I do any purchases further.

I have owned few 870's, 590A1's, Benelli M4 and M2. I think after shooting a short 8 inch 870 in the range it was pretty cool, except I thought it was too short for my liking. So I think 10 to 12.5 is ideal for what I want to try to build.


jetfixer said:
What do you plan on using the shotgun for?

The reason I ask is that I have a Remington 870 with a 12" Dlask barrel on it and it kicks harder than any shotgun I have ever handled, and that is with a Magpul stock (3 spacers..I am a yard ape). Short barrels are great for predator control shotguns where you might have to put 2-3, 3" mag 00 Buck at a black bear. As a home defense shotgun it is good too (Canadian laws aside - no castle law). In both situations you will will be using what is in it and on it (capacity and shells held on in holders). Your adrenaline won't notice the trauma of your less than ideal stance and hold, especially when you don't extend the collapsible stock before shouldering and firing (complex motor skill). I had an AR style pistol grip stock on my Mossberg 500 and did not care for it, and I have been shooting AR style rifles since 1990 as part of my job. Stocks designed for 5.56mm AR's don't always optimally translate to 12ga shotguns

For everything else, go with a 20" or more. The difference between my Mossberg 500 (20" barrel with 7 shot tube) and my Remington 870 (12" barrel 4 shot tube) in recoil and follow on shot acquisition is noticeable when firing them back to back. I have spent a lot of time behind 12ga shotguns (skeet, hunting, target, military) and if you are building a shotgun for practical use then I would suggest setting it up for a simple grab-rack-hold-aim-fire system. If you are just wanting a neat build then hey, do what ever you want and have fun (I may have built less than practical systems myself;).
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I spent more than I wanted on my 870 build in the above picture. The 12.5" barrel is as short as you can go without changing the mag tube as well. I got the 870 for $300, used (CGN-local). The Dlask 12.5" barrel was $249.99+tax. Dlask single point sling plate $25.99+tax. Magpul forend $34.99+tax & stock $139.99+tax (both mail order). Magpul grip hand stop $20.99+tax. Light mount was about $25 (ebay) and the light was $14.99+tax (Midland Tools). The sling is homemade from material I had lying around. That ends up at $858.29 including taxes (some with GST+PST and some with just GST). You can save lots by using the factory furniture and just going with a used shotgun and buying a 12.5" barrel. That would have been an under $600 build. You mentioned you had a budget to work with so I hope my cost breakdown helps. *I recouped about $170. by selling the 20" barrel and factory furniture on CGN (making the total out of pocket cost $688.29).

I built mine as our camping, canoeing and back roads exploring predator control shotgun. We see bears all the time here on Vancouver Island.
 
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