remington model14 44-40

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Hey guys. I just received a remington model14 in 44-40. The stock is loose and cracked and the pump grip is a little battered. This is my first antique rifle. Where could I find an original stock and pump for this rifle. I believe they are worth a bit of money in good condition. I would really love to get it back into shape and let some rounds fly. just need a little direction on finding original parts for this rifle.
 
you may be better off having the stock professionally repaired to maintain value

if it is too much of a project gun for you i will glady add it to my 44-40 collection
 
Are you sure its not a 14 1/2 ? I don't think the 14 was chambered in 44 REM (But I could be wrong?)
If it is a 14 1/2, can you tell me if it has a "Dominion of Canada Proof" on it?
Pics would be awesome :)
Finding a stock set would be difficult IMO.
 
My girlfriend has my camera right now but I will post pics when I get it back. The rifle has a 22 inch barrel and the production # is C 32808. It says 44 rem OR 44 WCF. I thought the 14 1/2 where carbines with 18 inch barrels.
 
Bare said:
Hey guys. I just received a remington model14 in 44-40. The stock is loose and cracked and the pump grip is a little battered. This is my first antique rifle. Where could I find an original stock and pump for this rifle. I believe they are worth a bit of money in good condition. I would really love to get it back into shape and let some rounds fly. just need a little direction on finding original parts for this rifle.
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Just be aware that while this may be an antique as far as you are concearned, he Firearms Act does not consider it one
 
It's a stamp on the barrel just forward of the receiver over the chamber(on '92 Winchesters anyway). Consists of 2 crossed flags, a crown on the top of the crossed flags. A "D" on the left side, a "C" on the right side, and a "P" on the bottom part beneath the crossed flags. I don't have a picture of mine to post. I've also seen it on the wrist of a .410 gauge Lee-Enfield.

The Dominion of Canada proof stamp was mainly for rifles to be used in te prison system in the role of guard duty. Many Model 14 Remington pumps and '92 Winchester bear this stamp. I was told, at the time, prison guards would purchase their own rifle, and submit it for approval and proof testing. Mine was built in 1915.
 
There were rifle and carbine versions of the 14 1/2s in both 44-40 and 38-40

The "prison guard" story is a common one, this is the first I've heard of the guards having to buy the guns themselves though!
Heres the story I got Re; the DCP proof (from a prominant member of the Remington Society of America)

In regard to the 14½, no one knows how many were made but I personally think the number is somewhere around 10,000. Part of this is based on the fact that 4000 were ordered for the British Navy for use in WWI. JP Morgan was the agent for the British government, and the order is dated October, 1915, I believe. I have it in my files but am too lazy to dig it out. Anyway, Britain contracted with the Canadian Proof House to send representatives to the factory to proof the rifles. They also purchased 20,000 44-40 rifles from Winchester, and these were also to be proofed by Canada. After the war, maybe as late as 1926, the rifles were sold as surplus, and they ended up in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and, of course, the United States.
The British navy, in WWI, used them primarily in the coastal defense role. I believe they were used on small patrol boats and the like. One in Australia was used after the war as a prison gun. Perhaps some found a similar role in Canada
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Hers some pics of my DCP marked 14 1/2 and the Dominion of Canada Proof
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Thanks canuck. Thats a nice looking rifle. Mine looks a little more warn than yours. Do you still shoot yours? Thanks for the history lesson also. I cant seem to find much on this rifle.
 
I have yet to shoot this gun Bare - seems I have too many others that need attention!
There isn't a whole lot of info around on the 14 1/2s ( one of the reasons I like them :p), here is a good article tho

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_5_50/ai_114283922/

No - there is no model number on my gun either, but of course the 14 1/2 is easily distinguishable from the 14 by the full length mag tube (as well as the caliber).
 
There are a few sites on the internet that sell parts for these rifles as well. Good to know. there are aftermarket stocks as well hopefully mine fixable. it would be nice to keep it original.
 
the 14 1/2 is a model 14 chambered in a pistol caliber.Hence the 1/2 designation.I have a DCP 14 1/2 in 44-40...highest serial recorded by those who care at the Remington Society...
Do a search here and you will find threads with info and even one for sale...and some pictures too ;)
 
Can you not shim the stock bolt if it has run out of thread?

Not trying to deter you from getting new lumber for it but if the rifle is in rough shape as mentioned, new stocks will really clash. They sure did for my old 1899 I got new wood for.
Nugget's gun had four cracks in the butt stock where it joined the receiver and they sure patched up nice. (on the left)
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