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Quick question. Other than an "M" at the end of the serial number of an 1100 Remington shotgun, are there any real differences to the frame/receiver? If I were to put a 3" barrel on a 2 3/4" receiver 1100, would I hurt anything firing magnum loads. I read on Remingtons sight that you should not shoot 3" magnum lead on a 2 3/4" frame, but 3" steel was OK. Any reason for this? And does this apply to 870's as well?
 
If your 1100 has an M at the end of the ser# it is a magnum. I have detailed these gun for differences and have found none. Several other shooters I know have found that there is no difference of concern between magnum and non magnum 1100 receivers. Generally it is felt that a steady diet of 3" lead magnums will wear the action spring on a non magnum receiver. This wear is also a concern on magum receivers because of the heavy recoil associated with 3" magnum lead loads. (2 or 3 a year for turkey will have no effect) The 870 magnum receiver has a specific 3" ejector and will handle all 2/34" and 3" loads. Non magnum 870 receivers will not eject 3" loads and the barrels are not chambered for 3" shells. The reason Remington says it is alright to shoot 3" steel loads on a non magnum receiver is that steel loads generate less recoil. I have 3 barrels for my non magnum 1100. A 26" steel shot barrel, a 26" imp cyl 2 3/4" barrel and a 3" magnum barrel (pre steel) all cycle fine. In closing if you only intend to shoot a few 3" lead loads a year ie: turkey or fox etc. you will not harm your non magnum receiver. Remember early 3" magnum 1100 barrels have only one gas port and will not reliably cycle steel loads.

cheers Darryl
 
So what your saying madtrapper, is that even with a 3" magnum like my 1973 1100, it is not advisable to shoot 3" magnum lead very often? Do you think she'll cycle 3" steel, with just the one gas port? You'd think that in '73 the only magnums they were thinking about were lead especially with a fixed full choke. I've found mine can cycle 2 3/4" lead target loads on a hot day, but won't even eject them on a cold day. I bought a new action spring the other day and when I compared it to my old spring, the new one is about an inch longer! I guess being compress in a shotgun for 34 years takes it's toll. This is probably why she would cycle in the summer, just enough extra pressure from the heat, combined with a worn spring;)
 
I full disassembled a 2 3/4" and 3" 1100 side by side and the only difference I found was in the action bar assembly. I found that the sleeve that slides around the mag tube was signifcantly heavier on the 3" gun. I weighed both units on a digital scale and recorded the difference in weight(I don't have the numbers handy at the moment). Someday I may fabricate screw on weight to make up the difference and give it a try. The 3" barrel also had a different gas port configuration.

I have seen a 3" barrel in Cabela's specifically designed for shooting 3" steel on 2 3/4" receivers - along with the warning "absolutely no 3" lead". This makes sense as 3" steel is generally 1 1/8"oz, the same as a light field loads.
 
ckid said:
I full disassembled a 2 3/4" and 3" 1100 side by side and the only difference I found was in the action bar assembly. I found that the sleeve that slides around the mag tube was signifcantly heavier on the 3" gun. I weighed both units on a digital scale and recorded the difference in weight(I don't have the numbers handy at the moment). Someday I may fabricate screw on weight to make up the difference and give it a try. The 3" barrel also had a different gas port configuration.

I have seen a 3" barrel in Cabela's specifically designed for shooting 3" steel on 2 3/4" receivers - along with the warning "absolutely no 3" lead". This makes sense as 3" steel is generally 1 1/8"oz, the same as a light field loads.
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Yes ckid, I guess the extra weight would serve two purposes, 1)beefier for more strength in the mags. 2)create more inertia. I'm just guessing now then?
 
Hi Standard your 1100 was designed to fire 3" lead magnum loads. It will fire alot before it shows wear. What I meant to say was that a steady diet of 3" mag lead loads in any early auto loader will accellerate wear. Your gun with only one gas port will likely not reliably cycle 3" steel loads. I would purchase the new steel shot barrel for your gun. It is a good investment in a fine shotgun.

cheers Darryl
 
Update

Well ckid, I striped a 2 3/4" shotgun down, and my 3" magnum and sure enough the action sleeves are different. I took some photos for all to see. So other then the barrel, this is the only difference I could see. The 2 3/4" action sleeve had a lot of material machined off of it to reduce its weight, as you can see in the photos. Mine is the lower photo. I've installed a 2 3/4" trap barrel, so I don't know what effect the heavy action sleeve will have on cycling. I'm going to try her this weekend.

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