Remington Versa max vs Stoeger M3K

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Need advice and opinion on Remington Versa max vs Stoeger M3K in terms of performance and most importantly, recoil for the various ammo. My 16 yr old daughter has expressed some interest in firearms. Don't want her first shot to be the last.

Thank you everyone
Ray
 
Versamax is much heavier, and felt recoil is less due to weight and the gas system. Weight may also be a consideration for a 16-yr old girl though.
 
stubblejumper said:
With Remington filing for bankruptcy, I would look elsewhere.
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Not bankruptcy; Chapter 11 protection. Corporations do this ALL the time in the States as it allows them to restructure, shed non-performing divisions, generally screw over their creditors and employees, and come back stronger. Trust me, Remington isn't going anywhere...
 
My versamax cycles literally everything. It’s quite an impressive system. I regularly shoot sporting clays with 7/8oz handloads and have a 3/4oz Skeet load that has almost zero felt recoil. Bolt cycles a little sluggish with the 3/4oz but I doubt any inertia gun would cycle them.
 
I use a Versa Max by Tactical Ordnance for 3 gun. I’ve shot it next to a tuned Benelli M2 and others. The Versa max is the softest shooting 12ga I have come across yet.
 
^ +1. It's INCREDIBLY soft shooting.

The Versa Max is just a sweetheart of a gun. The recoil is so soft that even with 1 1/8 oz 1200 fps loads you can shoot it held loose with the butt barely touching your shoulder. The only negative is that it's an ammo hog - being so nice to shoot it's hard not to blast through a flat every range trip.

"They" say it drops the recoil down by a gauge, but that's not accurate. It's like three gauges, from 12 to 28. They're also boringly reliable. They just work, always.

Comparing the VM to the M3K isn't quite correct - you'd have to compare the M3500 to the VM. The M3K is really a competitor of the V3.

Given the minimal price difference between the V3 & M3K or the VM and M3500, it's a no brainer. I've owned both, and I only have Versa Maxes now. I think it's reasonable to say they're the best autoloading shotgun ever made as far as performance, reliability and shootability goes.

Yes, it's a ripoff of the Benelli M4 /R1 ARGO system, but for some reason Benelli has never seen fit to make a sporting shotgun with ARGO. Remington is filling an obvious void, and thankfully so.

The Stoegers are a budget gun without the budget price, and have the limitations of every inertia gun.
 
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Ive yet to see the versa max fail on the skeet range. Ive yet to see a stoeger run right with light loads

Beretta a400 would be another worthy gun to look at. Scaled to gauge 12 20 and 28. Very soft shooting and lighter weight in feel though i havent weighed them side by side. Ladies that have shot my a400 xplor really liked it
 
vp6111 said:
Versamax is much heavier
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No it's not.

Even comparing the 3" M3K to the 3.5" VM, the VM is only a 1/4 lb heavier. That's just over a 3% difference.

The 3.5" VM is the same weight as the 3.5" M3500, and the 3" V3 is a bit lighter than the 3" M3K.

None of them are light upland guns, but none are overly heavy either. You won't find many lady shotgun competitors shooting guns that are any significantly lighter than the Versa Max - it's not like they're out doing skeet tournaments with 7 lb guns. At 16, his girl is pretty much fully grown as far as height and weight.
 
I am a big fan of the versa Max. I bought one first year they came out in Canada, and have been very pleased. Soft on the shoulder, eats anything you feed it. I had to get the mid high comb insert to get it shooting where i am looking. Remington sent me one for free. Nice gun ,if I had a complaint it would be the camo was not very durable, wearing off after a couple of seasons. But I can live with that . I score about the same with it in sporting clay as my expensive O/U.
 
It’s like asking what’s better Hyundai or Mercedes...

I’m a big fan of the M3K, I owned one for years...but the Versamax is a whole other level.

If you want a reliable, competition based gun for >$1000, can’t go wrong with the M3K...But if price is not the key driver and you can spend a bit more, get the Versamax.
 
+1 for the VM. It cycles anything you put in it and tames the recoil a lot. I have the more expensive version (Not the sportsman) I heard some corners were cut on the sportsman models like stamped steel parts instead of machined...etc to reduce cost. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong or provide some more info on the differences between the sportsman and higher end model.
 
CaribouHunter said:
provide some more info on the differences between the sportsman and higher end model.
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Stocks and metal finish, that's the difference.

All the internals are identical. The trigger groups across the models are identical. The bolt groups are all identical, excepting the tactical has a different bolt handle that won't interchange, but the complete bolt group will.
 
Nice to see the positive comments on the versamax. This will be my 8th year with mine chasing waterfoul and plenty of clays. Super reliable and very soft shooting. So much so that you get spoiled and don't want to shoot other guns cause the recoil is harsher.

Even a few years ago on here a positive comment on a versamax would have you attacked by the b gun guys, especially those inertia b gun guys. Well a versamax actually cycles cheap light clay loads perfectly, 1000 out of 1000 and does so with half the recoil, and when I need to take a shot from a very awkward position on a goose hunt I can do so without spitting blood.
 
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