Remington VTR 700 308 bolt jammed

[griaguns]

Took 5 shots, last shot the bolt jammed and wouldn't eject, buddy said to lightly tap th handle up with a nylon hammer the bolt handle fell off (looks like it is made of pot metal and was held by the 3/8s piece
What a piece of crap

 

[GMC403]

Is this a rant, a question or an observation?....... Pics?

We're the lugs lubed?, was it with reloads?, how hard do you hit it?

 

[swissrallyman]

The bolt handle is soldered onto the bolt body. You probably broke the solder not the bolt handle I assume.... some more info might be helpful unless you were just making a statement.

 

[guntech]

Took 5 shots, last shot the bolt jammed and wouldn't eject, buddy said to lightly tap th handle up with a nylon hammer the bolt handle fell off (looks like it is made of pot metal and was held by the 3/8s piece
What a piece of crap

Bad advice from your buddy.

Is this a new rifle? Was it factory ammo? If so Remington warranty should be contacted.

Used rifle and/or reloads - you will be footing the bill. Don't screw it up worse by trying to do anything else with the rifle. Take it and the removed bolt handle to your closest gunsmith for evaluation.

 

[Slamfire]

So the handles can break off on these. If it's a new rifle it should be sent back for repair under warranty.

https://www.remington.com/support/firearm-warranty-information

 

[griaguns]

It's a rant, a topic of discussion and an expression of disappointment .This was using Handloads which I am quite familiar with.

I hand load for everything from. 223 to 50-70 so it's not my loads.
The bolt handle was poorly attached.
Googled the bolt locking and it seems to be common.
Won't be buying Remington for a while.

 

[new210/22]

It's a rant, a topic of discussion and an expression of disappointment .This was using Handloads which I am quite familiar with.

I hand load for everything from. 223 to 50-70 so it's notLIKELY my loads.
The bolt handle was poorly attached.
Googled the bolt locking and it seems to be common.
Won't be buying Remington for a while.

Fixed that for ya, we are all fallible.

 

[tiriaq]

The steel (not pot metal) handle is induction brazed to the tubular bolt body. Over many years of gunsmithing, I've seen a few that were detached. On a very few, it was obvious that there was way less than 100% contact. Usually brute force was used. BFH, large rock, etc. applied to bolt handle. Handles peeled off, bending in the process. Sometimes broken. I have also seen Mauser handles snapped off by the application of the same sort of excessive force.

Get the rifle to an authorized Remington service center. They will likely replace the bolt. No, they won't sell you a bolt.

I have successfully reattached them using fluxed paste silver braze. It is essential to use a good jig to hold the handle in exactly the correct position, along with a heat sink and anti-scale compound. Red heat is involved, there is cleanup and polishing afterwards. My current M700 .30-06 has a barrel from one rifle, receiver from another, stock from a third. The bolt body is from a fourth, obtained without a handle. I used a universal handle, cutting the extraction camming surfaces. Silver brazed on. Probably the only 700 in captivity with a Ruger pattern bolt handle.
I have heard of TIG welding being used, but I don't TIG weld.

If you have lost faith in Remington, I'll buy the remains as is, for a salvage price...

 

[Mad_Mikee]

Seems like a good time to order a new oversized bolt from PT&G and have a smith re-cut the raceways.

 

[madashell]

I'd blame the triangle barrel ...

 

[rgv]

The problem is more than a bad joint, it is compounded by the lack of a proper primary extraction ramp on newer Remington bolts.

I recently bought a SPS that would not extract factory ammunition without hammering the bolt back ( I have neither fear nor good judgement)

A comparison to my 30 year old A-serial numbered 700 bolt showed the change, and I had the handle removed, the ramp rebuilt and TIG'd back on and things are all good again.

If you look at the photo, top bolt is a unfired current production SPS, middle is the bolt that has been re-done correctly, and bottom is a 70's vintage 700 bolt. I would not re-attach a factory bolt without fixing the ramp.

 

[guntech]

The steel (not pot metal) handle is induction brazed to the tubular bolt body. Over many years of gunsmithing, I've seen a few that were detached. On a very few, it was obvious that there was way less than 100% contact. Usually brute force was used. BFH, large rock, etc. applied to bolt handle. Handles peeled off, bending in the process. Sometimes broken. I have also seen Mauser handles snapped off by the application of the same sort of excessive force.

Get the rifle to an authorized Remington service center. They will likely replace the bolt. No, they won't sell you a bolt.

I have successfully reattached them using fluxed paste silver braze. It is essential to use a good jig to hold the handle in exactly the correct position, along with a heat sink and anti-scale compound. Red heat is involved, there is cleanup and polishing afterwards. My current M700 .30-06 has a barrel from one rifle, receiver from another, stock from a third. The bolt body is from a fourth, obtained without a handle. I used a universal handle, cutting the extraction camming surfaces. Silver brazed on. Probably the only 700 in captivity with a Ruger pattern bolt handle.
I have heard of TIG welding being used, but I don't TIG weld.

If you have lost faith in Remington, I'll buy the remains as is, for a salvage price...

Well stated.

It's a small problem a very few Remingtons have but if it happens to you, it is a huge problem. A fairly warm load contributed to the bolt lift becoming very hard though.

I had one come off while I was working on a customers rifle... and the bond was horrible... only one small spot was holding the handle on. Pissed me off as I felt responsible and so I fixed it on my dollar.