Remington VTR in .308 Win.......tack driver or run of the mill???

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I purchased a new Remington VTR in .308 Win. this winter and mounted a Bushnell Model 4200 2.5 - 10x 40mm scope on it but haven't had a chance to range test it.

I hear that these rifles are tack drivers with handloads and the right factory ammo.

Has anyone field tested a Remington VTR in .308 Win.?

Results?

Pictures would be nice.

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My brother has one and it is a great shooter with 168gr. I don't have any pics, but I think you will be happy once you get out shooting.

Adam
 
I don't think there is really anything special about them for the most part. They are basically the same as Remingtons middle of the road general rifles. I think its more looks than anything. I do however want one because they look neat.
 
A factory gun is a factory gun. Some shoot really well, some are really poor and the majority fit somewhere in the middle.

That tobelrone barrel runs counterintuitive to everything I know about barrels and I expect we will all look back and wonder what they were seriously thinking when they came up with that idea.
 
Here's mine, it shoots as good as my other rifles and I think it looks cool with the triangle barrel.

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asphalt599 said:
I found the write up be the engineer to be very down the middle. Not an exceptional design but not garbage either.
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It seemed to reinforce the fact that the design is not something common and provide a little bit of support for the strength of the design. Doesn't really make you go one way or another. I think that's how you felt too.
 
I think Remington has become the 'Harley Davidson' of the gun world pushing new niche products into its already crowded line....Having said that Im still in love with my two rem. 700P's;)
 
The issue is not the shape (There is definitely truth to the strength argument) , but the precision with which the triangular sides must be cut/shaped in order to guarantee dimensional consistency. We're talking about a company that spits out barrels like a pez dispender, not a manufacturer known for ultra-precision.

A mandrel plugged into the middle of a hole and turned on a lathe is pretty darned hard to beat for consistency. Even a mass-producer like remington can do that...Cleaving/beating away hunks of barrel that leaves behind a triangular shape behind is where I shake my head. This is not theoretical... many barrels are ruined through fluting. A combination of releasing internal stresses and the fact that unless flutes are cut with absolute symetry and consistency, the barrel will have asymetrical mass resulting in asymetrical expansion and contraction.

The factory triangular production process cannot possibly result in barrels with absolute consistent dimensions. I remain skeptical, but I will be the first to admit I'm wrong if given a reason.
 
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Remington 700's

I don't have a great deal of faith in the newer Remington’s after the problems my friend had with his .223 700 Police. The head spacing was too tight and the firing pin hole was too large. He paid over $1200 for the gun and it had to be returned. The replacement gun had to go to a gunsmith to be checked out he smoothed out the trigger as it was more than 6 lbs. The guy builds accurate rifles, so he knows his Remingtons, he was the builder of the Armament Technology rifles.
I would have bought a beater 700 in 223 and used the action for a build project. I don't have any complaints about my older 700 BDL in 7mm08 it is well built, a smooth action and trigger. My friends problems with his new Remington has made me cautious about buying one.
 
This smells funny. How can the three pillars of the barrel compensate for each other when the top pillar has porting cut into them? Sounds sketchy to me. Also, do they cut the bore out of the triangular barrel blanks or do they cut the bore then cute the triangle?
 
drvrage said:
Also, do they cut the bore out of the triangular barrel blanks or do they cut the bore then cute the triangle?
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Exactly. What kind of pressure does the bore of that rifle receive when it is cut like that. I know the argument that fluting a barrel adds pressure to the bore so I'm sure the same thing, only worse happens when the barrel is cut so. Unless it is cut, then bored.
 
asphalt599 said:
I don't think there is really anything special about them for the most part. They are basically the same as Remingtons middle of the road general rifles. I think its more looks than anything. I do however want one because they look neat.
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I'm the opposite......I have no use for functionless eye candy and would pay money for a Surgeon action or Krieger barrel before I'd waste a dime on fancy wood, scrolling & inletting.

Looks are fine but the shots all need to land in the same township if I'm doing my part at the reloading bench & behind the recoil pad or the gun is "history".

Some people denigrate Savage as a "junk gun" but I have a Savage bolt action in .30-06 that will print 3/4" groups @ 100 yds. all day long and had (recently sold) a Browning bolt in the same caliber that looked a lot better that might print a 3" group on a sunny, windless day.

The Browning was a lot "purtier" and collected dust in the gun safe while the "plain Jane" Savage & I went hunting.
 
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albayo said:
I don't have a great deal of faith in the newer Remington’s after the problems my friend had with his .223 700 Police. The head spacing was too tight and the firing pin hole was too large. He paid over $1200 for the gun and it had to be returned. The replacement gun had to go to a gunsmith to be checked out he smoothed out the trigger as it was more than 6 lbs. The guy builds accurate rifles, so he knows his Remingtons, he was the builder of the Armament Technology rifles.
I would have bought a beater 700 in 223 and used the action for a build project. I don't have any complaints about my older 700 BDL in 7mm08 it is well built, a smooth action and trigger. My friends problems with his new Remington has made me cautious about buying one.
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Maybe Remington has headed down that same road that Winchester did just after 1968.

Apparently Winchester was taken over by a company around that time that wanted to "high grade" an established name.

The Winchester Model 70's made in the early 70's were junk and I don't think the Winchester name has totally recovered yet.

Have there been any big ownership changes at Remington recently??
 
None of us like change,Lets see how they do.Im looking forward to seeing how mine does out in the bush where it counts.You can hump your 20 pound target monsters through the woods if you want.Dave
 
I would be tempted to get one for just that. A light, dependable bush, treestand gun. But I just got a 700 SPS youth in 243 last year, and it is great in the bush and up trees, so I'm not too tempted.
 
Accurate said:
A VTR comes with a green SPS stock and a triangle barrel. Just buy a SPS varmnit. And some sort of muzzle break. For a .308?
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I have this one. I think VTR stands for Varmit Tactical Rile but then again I don't buy a hunting rifle cause of it's name or look's. Mine also has a green SPS stock, detachable magazine, X-pro trigger (wich is really easy to do a trigger job on it) and a supercell recoil pad. I found that it likes the cheap 180 grain soft point's from winchester that I buy @ wall mart. When shooting @ 100 meter's I get a minute of moose with my harris bipod. As a side note I ain't no long range sniper/computer comando but I do love hunting and for a $600 rifle I couldn't ask for anything more.
 
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