Replacement Frizzen and Frizzen Spring Needed for Flintlock

[gr8dane99]

Does anyone one a place in Canada where you can buy a Frizzen (hammer) and spring. I am hoping that there is a store that sells old Flintlock parts or somewhere with various sizes since I need something fairly small. I tried buying something from the US but what I bought (a Frizzen and spring) were both too big and shipping is more than the cost of the items.

Any help would be great.

 

[Intrepid]

Does anyone one a place in Canada where you can buy a Frizzen (hammer) and spring. I am hoping that there is a store that sells old Flintlock parts or somewhere with various sizes since I need something fairly small. I tried buying something from the US but what I bought (a Frizzen and spring) were both too big and shipping is more than the cost of the items.

Any help would be great.

I probably have some springs, unsure how many, in my scrap parts jar. Have you got any dimensions, or particular style to go by?

 

[I Dont Care About You]

FWIW, the "hammer" is called the ####. The frizzen is the curved flat bit that the flint strikes. Both the #### and frizzen have their own spring.

 

[tiriaq]

I am unaware of a store that has an inventory of muzzleloading gun parts.
If you were to describe exactly what sort of lock you need the parts for, it would really help. Modern, antique, military, civilian, time period?
Photos would be helpful.
FWIW, when flintlocks - firelocks - were the standard, the piece holding the flint was often referred to as the c ock. The piece that was struck by the flint was called the battery or the hammer. Frizzen is a later term. The striking part became a hammer during the percussion period.

As an example, here is a photo of a lock for which I need parts. Need a c ock, top jaw and top jaw screw, as well as the frizzen spring. The c ock is the style that is stopped when it contacts the flashpan fence; the frizzen spring has a roller against which the toe of the frizzen bears. The c ock was most likely either double throated or French style. The frizzen spring screw enters the frizzen from the inside of the lockplate. Even with the photo and the description, a lot more information would be needed if parts were to be located.
Unless modern, or a standard military pattern, any parts obtained are likely going to need fitting and reworking. Scratch built is also an option.

 

[gr8dane99]

Pictures

 

[MC One Shot]

How old is the gun? Are there any names or identifying marks on it or the lock. check the inside of the lock as well. This all helps greatly along with pictures and somewhat accurate dimensions of the parts you require. There are no retailers per say for flintlock parts. There are some individuals on this site that do have some random spare parts for or from various guns who may chime in if you post some details as forementioned. Back in the day parts for gun were wide and varied as were makers no master inventories for all makers to pull from. For older guns Try Track of the Wolf and Dixie Gun Works. Tracks catalogue pictures are pretty dead on for actual size for locks and springs.

 

[tiriaq]

I think a really good gunsmith could repair the frizzen from the GILL lock. It would take some skilled TIG welding followed by reshaping.
There are a couple of parts suppliers in England who list a large variety of lock parts. Peter Dyson, EJ Blackley.
You might try The Rifle Shoppe in the US.

I'm not sure what the second lock is. Don't think it is antique.

 

[Licensed to kill]

That frizzen could easily be repaired and frizzen springs are not difficult to make ( springs with the roller are exempt). I have bought parts from both Blackely and Dyson and both are great outfits to deal with. However, what I have bought from them has been casting taken from antique locks and as such, in the case of the frizzen, require more work/fitting than it would just to fix the one you have. These two lock were cobbled together from parts obtained from Dyson for a sxs I was making. I bought the plates, frizzens, hammers, and top jaws from Dyson and made
the rest. These locks (William Smith) originally came with high chested hammers which I don't care for so I chose a different style hammer from Dyson's extensive catalogue of parts. If you look in front of the left lock hammer you can see in the casting where the lock mounting bolt went.

 

[8ball]

FWIW, the "hammer" is called the ####. The frizzen is the curved flat bit that the flint strikes. Both the #### and frizzen have their own spring.

I cannot beleive that a Justin lover woke pervert AI is used on this forum to censor some flintlocks words like... c-o-c-k...