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I'm a little confused. Aren't replica firearms prohibited in Canada? RCMP says " A replica firearm is a device that is not a real firearm, but that was designed to look exactly or almost exactly like a real firearm." Yet there are guns for sale by individuals on various forums and stores that state their product as "non firing replicas" and they look like real guns. So is this allowed? Or is it okay if they are styled after a gun that is considered antique?

I think I answered my own question.

"To be prohibited as a replica firearm, a device must closely resemble an existing make and model of firearm. If it is an antique firearm, as defined by the Criminal Code and corresponding regulations, it is not prohibited."
 
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I just got an email from Discriminating General saying the same thing. I was asking about A Brown Bess that I had my eye on so I shot them an email asking if the Canadian models had the hole drilled. Anyone have any experience with these? Are they worth picking up as a shooter?
 
What I was wondering about are, for example, non firing handguns that were made from say within the last 70 years up until now. I gather if the replica handgun is modeled after a gun that is considered antique, it is okay? Otherwise I suppose a lot of those cap firing handguns that we played with as kids years ago would be now considered prohibited. Some are extremely realistic. Then when I saw ads for non firing replica revolvers, that's what got me wondering.
 
I wonder about all the air guns that are extremely good replicas of real guns. I've got a Umarex PX4 that looks extremely convincing and even has a similar heft to a real gun. How come these aren't prohibited?
 
WRENCHGOD said:
I just got an email from Discriminating General saying the same thing. I was asking about A Brown Bess that I had my eye on so I shot them an email asking if the Canadian models had the hole drilled. Anyone have any experience with these? Are they worth picking up as a shooter?
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well worth it as a shooter or for reenacting. also Loyalist Arms and Repair have comparable prices and can come drilled and ready.
 
Cranberry said:
I wonder about all the air guns that are extremely good replicas of real guns. I've got a Umarex PX4 that looks extremely convincing and even has a similar heft to a real gun. How come these aren't prohibited?
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Because they're not replicas they are air guns. Just like an AR for airsoft is not a replica it's essentially a toy.
 
WRENCHGOD said:
I just got an email from Discriminating General saying the same thing. I was asking about A Brown Bess that I had my eye on so I shot them an email asking if the Canadian models had the hole drilled. Anyone have any experience with these? Are they worth picking up as a shooter?
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I have one of their Baker rifles. Looks great, smooth bore but I would have no hesitation to bore out the touch hole if I wanted to make it a shooter.
 
BernDawg said:
Because they're not replicas they are air guns. Just like an AR for airsoft is not a replica it's essentially a toy.
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So, because it's a real firearm that looks like another real firearm it's not a replica and therefore not prohibited. It's only a prohibited replica if it *doesnt* do anything? Whoa! I'm starting to lose faith in our firearms laws (sarcasm).
 
Cranberry said:
So, because it's a real firearm that looks like another real firearm it's not a replica and therefore not prohibited. It's only a prohibited replica if it *doesnt* do anything? Whoa! I'm starting to lose faith in our firearms laws (sarcasm).
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Basically, that's it. From what I understand, airguns are really considered firearms except for those under 495fps are not subject to the same regulations as your "typical" firearm while those airguns over 495 fps are. So since all BB/pellet guns do fall under general firearms definition according to our laws, they aren't replica firearms. But you take a fairly real looking non firing toy uzi made of plastic and you are breaking the law unless it is made of bright colored clear plastic. But if you have a real looking uzi that is a firing BB gun, you are okay. And from what I get out of this is if a non firing replica handgun you have is modeled after a real gun that is considered an antique, that replica is okay. Totally confusing laws.
 
gunsaholic said:
Basically, that's it. From what I understand, airguns are really considered firearms except for those under 495fps are not subject to the same regulations as your "typical" firearm while those airguns over 495 fps are. So since all BB/pellet guns do fall under general firearms definition according to our laws, they aren't replica firearms. But you take a fairly real looking non firing toy uzi made of plastic and you are breaking the law unless it is made of bright colored clear plastic. But if you have a real looking uzi that is a firing BB gun, you are okay. And from what I get out of this is if a non firing replica handgun you have is modeled after a real gun that is considered an antique, that replica is okay. Totally confusing laws.
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Canadian firearms laws are totally confusing and make little logical sense for everybody, even for those whose job it is to enforce them. Who knows if they originally were meant to be purposely confusing and illogical or not or if those that made them had any idea what they were doing!
 
mkrnel said:
Canadian firearms laws are totally confusing and make little logical sense for everybody, even for those whose job it is to enforce them. Who knows if they originally were meant to be purposely confusing and illogical or not or if those that made them had any idea what they were doing!
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Exactly. I doubt the people who made them knew what they were doing and I doubt the lawyers who try to defend or enforce know how to truly interpret them.
 
mkrnel said:
Canadian firearms laws are totally confusing and make little logical sense for everybody, even for those whose job it is to enforce them. Who knows if they originally were meant to be purposely confusing and illogical or not or if those that made them had any idea what they were doing!
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then add in all the different provincial regulations wrt hunting and all the rest of the BS and it really starts to pile up.
 
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