Resizing /Lubricating lead cast bullets?

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Hi anyone
Can you help me? What are the best resizers/lubricators in this lead casting business? Lyman #45, #450, or the #4500? I have seen so much on all but never a comparison. I will use for .38 Special and 30/30. Thanks.
 
They are just improvements over the last model with Lyman 4500 being the latest with the option of having a heating element to plug in if you want it for softening really hard lubes. It is an excellent sizer as is the RCBS....I have both and they are equal...both use the same size dies($20.00ea. U.S.) and top punches($7.00ea.U.S.)...if you go for the Lyman get the heating element option!
 
Buy the RCBS/Lyman lube sizer. I can't tell the difference between the two and both use the Lyman heater. Both work great. If you are into casting here is a Forum worth joining. Some of the guys on the forum know more about casting bullets than most will learn in two lifetimes.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/

Take Care

Bob
 
Thanks guys. I new RCBS was a good one and Lyman has a very good reputation. Just wondering if the new #4500 was that much better than #45 and #450?
 
Bashing Lee is such fun sport.

I have the Lyman with heater and lots of stick lube, but I abandoned it a while ago for Alox and Lee sizers. To each his own, but I find the Alox to work wonderfully and the sizers to work with a lot less hassle. I might well sell the whole Lyman setup.

I have several custom made sizers in such sizes as 270 and 448, and received them in the mail in three weeks for something like $30 each shipped with a tube of Alox. Try that with RCBS or Lyman.
 
I use Lee sizer in my 308BR and Win94 (45LC) to size and seat the GC. They work very well. Cheap, simple and effective. No good if you want to use a hard lube though.

But then I only use Lee liq Alox and have not had any leading issues to worry about so far.

Jerry
 
Best of both worlds

I use both Lee's method of sizing/lubing and RCBS/Lyman's.
Sometimes, when I need to quench cast bullets for hardening, I first dunk the bullets in a very dilute Lee Liquid Alox solution and size them wet. If I need to place gaschecks, I do it now too.
Then I dunk them in a can of paint thinner to clean the Alox from them.
I put them on a cookie sheet to dry and put them in a heated oven near 450F for an hour (do this when your lady is gone for the week and with the fan going full blast).
I then plunge them all in a single move in a bucketfull of ice-cold water.
From then on, these quenched bullets will not be resized anymore. I dry them, coat them with some Lee Liquid Alox lube and forget them for a few days.
When I want to use them, I grease-coat the bullets in a conventional lubesizing press with any good hard lube I happen to have at hand, using a same-diameter die to avoid any sizing.
I never had any leading in my 30-30 or other rifle loads when shot with a moderate speed recipe. You can go easily to 2000fps without any problem.
PP.:)
 
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If you find a Star resizer grab it. They are much faster to use and built for a lifetime of use. I got a like new one with a 451 sizing die for a $100. A club member said he could get me one for $75, so now i have 2. I give my layman away for free.I only wish i had got a Star to begin with.
 
Star sizers are excellent and have been around forever.....their sizers are hard to find and more expensive...dies and punches are more expensive as well!! This can make a diff. if you need 20 or so dies!!
 
I bought a used Star lube sizer years ago and it is a lot better than the Lyman it replaced, if you can find a used one it is well worth buying. I have seen many for sale on eBay too.

their sizers are hard to find and more expensive...dies and punches are more expensive as well!!
You can buy new sizers for $195.00, sizing dies for $35.00 from Magma Engineering and you only need one bullet punch worth $12.50 for all calibers from 9mm to .45.
http://www.magmaengineering.com/item.php?id=24

I think the greatest advantage of the Star lube sizer is this:

Magma Star Lube-sizer is the only manual lubricating and sizing machine to feature straight through sizing. Never having to remove a sized bullet means production is more than doubled!
 
Ben Ben Ben.He asked what the best lubresizer was. The Star is the best that is why most pro's use them. He said he wants to load for .38 and .30-30 so the Star dies would cost him $7 more than 2 lyman dies.Ben I think i worked shift with you at the Bruce we could have made you the dies for free. All the best Ray.
 
Thats 20 sizing dies@35.00 U.S. +tax......about $1200.00 landed on our shores!!

Not many people cast for 20 different calibers, I would be surprised if anybody on Gunnutz even did. I have 6 sizing dies for my Star but I didn't buy them all the same day, they were bought over the years as I acquired new firearms then moulds. I would think that is the most common way of ending up with a few different caliber sizing dies.
 
Ray: If I had known that you could have spent alll night making sizing dies, I'd have bought a Star too, now I am in Sask. helping in a cast bullet bus. Williams carries 'em, so does Wholesale Sports and some others, but I don't want to hijack this forum, your point about the Star is well taken.....but I have RCBS sizer set up for one type of lube and Lyman set up for other lube and with about 25 sizing dies already I couldn't make the switch!!
 
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