Restricted in Trunk During Work Day?

"...That is nonsense..." Should read 'not in plain view in your vehicle'.
"...Doesn't make it legal..." There's nothing in the FA that makes it illegal either. The firearms, restricted or not, are being transported not stored. Just follow the unattended vehicle rules.
 
this topic comes up a few times every now and then.

The law is written in such a grey way.

Yes you are going to work but its the most direct way for YOU at the time.

it's like taking your restricted to a match 3 hours away and youll be staying at a hotel.

(i actually don't know if the CFO has to know what hotel youll be staying at, ill call them in a week or so)
but do they have to know what stop you make to eat or fill up gas? no
 
I think that the argument is the primary purpose of the trip. If you are going to a 3 gun match out of town, your ATT is good to the hotel, since the reason you need to stay overnight is for the match. If I’m going to work, my primary purpose is the 8 hours that I will be at work, not the hour or two after work that I’ll be shooting. (I do agree however that the whole ATT thing is unnecessary, and provides no value.)
 
I wouldn't do it unless I had a clear ok from CFO. If anything happens in between your in for a whole lot of SH$K.... I hear they will take all your guns away until the judge decides what to do with you, and a few dollars
for defense. There's an insurance you can buy to protect yourself for defending yourself due to firearms charges.... I am thinking of getting it even though I follow the regs strictly.
 
sallen said:
I think that the argument is the primary purpose of the trip. If you are going to a 3 gun match out of town, your ATT is good to the hotel, since the reason you need to stay overnight is for the match. If I’m going to work, my primary purpose is the 8 hours that I will be at work, not the hour or two after work that I’ll be shooting. (I do agree however that the whole ATT thing is unnecessary, and provides no value.)
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That's the way I see a reasonable judge interpreting "reasonably direct, in all the circumstances" and "intent of the law". Reasonable departures would need to be incidental & necessary to one's primary objective of visiting a range. Otherwise, there would be no point in requiring an ATT, because at some point in your life, I'm sure you're planning to go to the range. :rolleyes:

In spite of the illogic, unfairness, low risk of detection and as tempting as it may be at times, it's not a risk I would take.
 
Y'know... I bet whomever answere these calls at the CFO's office has an indellable "face palm" mark on their... Well, on their face.

The ATT reads:
"Firearms must be transported by a route that, in all circumstances, is reasonably direct."

For example:

If your "circumstance" is that you're going to the range apres work... It's unreasonable for you to drive 50km out of your way,
in the opposite direction so... Pack your gear, put it in your car... Go to work (where you STFU about what you're doing after work).
At quittin' time you go to the range.



In many many years I've only every known on ONE person who had their ATT/route/location enroute questioned by the po-lice...
It only happened because the po-lice in question didn't know what an ATT was or what it authorized.
Of course being the po-lice they erred on "their" side of caution and seized the firearms...
Once they learned that they had made a mistake... Guns were returned. Nobody lost a #### that day.
 
I know that I was told by a person at my range for a similar question no. I was going to my girlfriends house, shooting on Saturday at an approved range in her area (had the invitation) and shooting on Sunday at my range and got told to call the CFO and get a temp ATT.
I quoted Sixgunjohnny because I recently came accross this insurance he speaks of. If its ok I would like to link to the website. it is
http://www.firearmlegaldefence.com/


Sixgunjohnny said:
I wouldn't do it unless I had a clear ok from CFO. If anything happens in between your in for a whole lot of SH$K.... I hear they will take all your guns away until the judge decides what to do with you, and a few dollars
for defense. There's an insurance you can buy to protect yourself for defending yourself due to firearms charges.... I am thinking of getting it even though I follow the regs strictly.
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In my opinion if work is between home and the range, it's defensible. Nothing in the regs says anything about " a timely manner". It comes down to how comfortable you are leaving a firearm locked in your car based on where you are parked. For me, secure lot, yes; street parking , probably not. If my work was between home and the range I would take advantage of the time savings. My .02
 
sallen said:
I think that the argument is the primary purpose of the trip. If you are going to a 3 gun match out of town, your ATT is good to the hotel, since the reason you need to stay overnight is for the match. If I’m going to work, my primary purpose is the 8 hours that I will be at work, not the hour or two after work that I’ll be shooting. (I do agree however that the whole ATT thing is unnecessary, and provides no value.)
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The only reason I have to stop off at work, is to pay for my guns and range fees. So there you go. :)
 
J.L.C. said:
There is a range really close to my work, which is not so close to home (about 45mins).

If I am a member at that club, and have an LTATT to take restricted firearms there, can I leave them locked in a separate container, locked in the trunk, during the workday? Is that considered safe storage in an unattended vehicle?

Or, do I have to first drive all the way home, pick up the firearms then drive back?

Is this open to interpretation or strictly regulated?

Does the same apply for non-restricted firearms?

It would be great to miss the rush-hour traffic by shooting just around the corner from work!!
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I have an identical situation... I just don't! Have thought about it many times, but the resolution if caught does not make it worth the risk, although it is utterly ridiculous.
 
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