Restricted storage question?

legally you do not require a trigger lock on your restricted firearm when it is in the gun cabinet. The trigger lock is a transport requirement.

in the cabinet the firearm must be unloaded however the ammunition can be on the shelf in the same cabinet and stored in a magazine which is not in the gun on the shelf as well.
 
I'm sure I was told in my FAC course taken ~25 years ago that we had to have trigger locks on while in the safe. I have read in other threads here recently that the trigger locks aren't required while in storage.
 
Op, go directly to the source and make a determination for yourself or call theCFO to verify.
My read is that if it is not a ‘safe’ it needs a trigger lock
 
legally you do not require a trigger lock on your restricted firearm when it is in the gun cabinet.

...if you want to gamble on one provincial court judge's definition.

The Act itself says "safe" not "cabinet".

I'm not a gambling man and I wouldn't want to foot the bill testing that definition in front of a second judge. Best of luck with that.
 
Op, go directly to the source and make a determination for yourself or call theCFO to verify.
My read is that if it is not a ‘safe’ it needs a trigger lock

...if you want to gamble on one provincial court judge's definition.

The Act itself says "safe" not "cabinet".

I'm not a gambling man and I wouldn't want to foot the bill testing that definition in front of a second judge. Best of luck with that.



Nope. Read the law. No mention of a “safe” either. Why do so many people not read the actual laws? Where is shawn to straighten this out lol.

OP no trigger lock required.
 
Nope. Read the law. No mention of a “safe” either. Why do so many people not read the actual laws? Where is shawn to straighten this out lol.

OP no trigger lock required.

6 An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is

(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.


And this is the Ontario Court of Justice ruling on the definition:
http://firearmslaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Barnes-Reasons-for-Judgement.pdf
 
please quote the definition of "safe" in the law



... you're right, there is none!


Ah yes all the legal experts wanting to prove a point on principle. If you want to test it in law for yourself, go for it. Giving that advice to others is just stupid. Which is why you need to check for yourself, OP, or take a conservative approach.

The regs do distinguish between a lockable ‘cabinet’ (trigger lock required) and a ‘safe’ (trigger lock not required).

Apply a little common sense. Particularly when the item is called a ‘cabinet’.

Take the conservative approach.
 
6 An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is

(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.


And this is the Ontario Court of Justice ruling on the definition:
http://firearmslaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Barnes-Reasons-for-Judgement.pdf

Well... ####. Beat by a Wal-Mart greeter, my dad said it would happen but I never listened.
 
In cabinet+trigger lock
In safe+ no trigger lock
In Ontario, there is case law (that may or may not be considered in a different court) that sort of defines a locked steel container is a "safe".
 
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