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just wondering if a restricted firearm needs to be stored at the house it's registered to or not. the book, and rcmp website don't mention anything about it. but a buddy says he thinks it needs to but is also not sure.

also since i started a thread, how long does it take to get a ATT for a friend's restricted?
 
I'm pretty sure it does, but I can't say 100%. Reason being the ATT or LTATT for the restricted is probably from the residence to range or gunsmith or bordercrossing. Also if the place it's stored has no RPAL holder that may be an issue.

Honestly I have questions too, but I'm just going to call the CFO on monday, that way I know 100% for sure.
 
Ryan500 said:
I'm pretty sure it does, but I can't say 100%. Reason being the ATT or LTATT for the restricted is probably from the residence to range or gunsmith or bordercrossing. Also if the place it's stored has no RPAL holder that may be an issue.

Honestly I have questions too, but I'm just going to call the CFO on monday, that way I know 100% for sure.
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good point. that makes sense but it would also make sense to list that as a condition. but then again half the stupid gun laws don't make any sense to start with.

my buddy has his rpal too, i'm actually planning to buy it from him, but i can't store it at my place.

hopefully i will remember to call and ask as well.
 
Assuming you did write the RPAL test, do you remember the question asking if you must notify the CFO if you are changing your address? Wonder why? Did your instructor not go over that with you? It is vital that the correct address is shown on your PAL as that is the location that you are advising the CFC that the firearms will be kept, unless you make specific arrangements advising of an alternate location. Same applies for both PAL and RPAL and moreso in the case of the RPAL. As mentioned above re the ATT they are using the address you provided as the location of origin/destination to/from your approved range. Be careful.
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CAll the CFO but I think if you have a second residence ie. lake property etc. you can store it there while you are there but you have to infrom the CFO. First thing that came to my mind is why do you want to store your guns where you are not at?
 
Like many of the laws, the rules around this show little effort was made by legislative counsel when it came to drafting. Most of us have a LTATT that allows us to take a restricted to a range anywhere in the Province so let's assume I drive from Vancouver to, say, Prince George for a two day service rifle (AR) shoot - in order to comply with my LTATT I suppose I must sleep at the range as I cannot take the restricted to a motel or a friends house. Of course the tecnically correct answer is obtain a short term ATT from range to motel etc etc etc...

Canadian gun laws - frustrating to say the least (btw - I actually did go to law school and they still donna make sense !)
 
A friend of mine bought a Beretta 96D from The Shooting Edge in Calgary. He did not possess an ATT so he leaves it at the range, where he bought it. Since it's regestry it has never been moved from the range. That said I dont have a definitive answer either, I am interested to know though.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
good point. that makes sense but it would also make sense to list that as a condition. but then again half the stupid gun laws don't make any sense to start with.

my buddy has his rpal too, i'm actually planning to buy it from him, but i can't store it at my place.

hopefully i will remember to call and ask as well.
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Hello, no need to call. If you are buying it from your buddy and storing it at his house, then there is no problem at all. He has his PAL with restricted (RPAL is so silly), make sure he has a copy of the registration certificate with the gun at all times. Since you are going to store it there, you will never have had to move it illegally if you also bought it there. It is just like if you borrowed a friends gun while at the range. You however can never take it to the range, as your ATT will be from your house to the range. He however can bring it to the range any time you want it. Just like borrowing a friends gun from the range.

If things change and you can bring it home, if you do get your own Club ATT, he just has to simply meet you at your range (using his ATT) then you can bring it home from the range (using your ATT). If you don't have a club ATT, and then become able to store it at home, you just call to get an ATT to bring your gun home from your friends home. If they ask you how your gun got there, that you now need an ATT to bring it home, you simply tell them that you never picked it up from his house when you bought it.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
just wondering if a restricted firearm needs to be stored at the house it's registered to or not. the book, and rcmp website don't mention anything about it. but a buddy says he thinks it needs to but is also not sure.
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Generally speaking, the answer is yes, usually. You can store a restricted firearm at another location temporarily, for up to a year, under the authority of a short-term ATT (for that purpose). Your CFO can issue you an ATT "for temporary storage" of your restricted firearms at a location other than the place of registration. (You can already store your non-restricted firearms there - or most anywhere, for that matter - without any special permission from them.) The ATT "for temporary storage" would serve as authorization for both the transport and the storage. Obviously, anyone with access to these firearms must be licensed for the respective category, and you should ensure that your own PAL does not expire (in the interim).

Call your CFO and ask. They'll be able to accommodate.

List of Chief Firearms Officers
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/c...fo-caf-eng.htm

CAFC 679 - Application for an Authorization to Transport Restricted Firearms and Prohibited Firearms
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...om/679-eng.htm
(You can also apply by phone)
 
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