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I had a chance to do side by side comparisons between my Glock 17, my SR9, and my new Shadow. To my surprise, my SR9 is now performing as good as my Glock. But, the new Shadow still puts all my other pistols to shame. It really forgives my bad habits. The attached photo's were taken tonight out at DVC. The distance is only about 5 yards, although it may look longer in the photo. I've heard that other people are getting far better groupings at 5 yards with guns similar to mine, but compared to my past performances I'm really happy with the results tonight. I'm still consistently pulling to the left with all pistols, so it seems like I need to focus on my trigger finger pull. Hopefully I'll be able to improve the groupings at longer distances and fix my trigger finger issues.

Any suggestions for how I reduce my tendency to shoot to the left?


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your groups with the glock are better than mine! I found that trigger control is the key to the glock. try setting your finger just in front of the first knuckle. This allows you to pull as straight balk on the trigger as possible. Remember, its that 11 pound trigger pull that is the enemy, it takes a helluva lot of force to pull that trigger.
 
Thanks! I'll focus on that stuff during my next outing. I've been trying to speed up my shooting (I'm hoping to get my black badge eventually and try IPSC) and that's probably contributing to my bad trigger pull...
 
remington700 said:
your groups with the glock are better than mine! I found that trigger control is the key to the glock. try setting your finger just in front of the first knuckle. This allows you to pull as straight balk on the trigger as possible. Remember, its that 11 pound trigger pull that is the enemy, it takes a helluva lot of force to pull that trigger.
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What trigger did your Glock come with?? 5.5lb is stock. Get rid of that NY trigger.

TDC
 
For optimum control: any trigger should be relatively between the the first joint ( on the index) and the second. This is the hardest part of shooting I've seen in 26 years of shooting, so don't feel bad you've got some kick a$$ groupings!
 
For ####'s sake. It doesn't matter where your bloody finger is on the trigger. Have a proper grip, pull straight back and you won't have any freakin problems.
 
nemesys said:
For f**k's sake. It doesn't matter where your bloody finger is on the trigger. Have a proper grip, pull straight back and you won't have any freakin problems.
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Every pro I have followed says to pull straight back like you say, which can be done with different finger positions, but for consitancy use only the first joint. Pulling straight back will be easier this way as you won't have the tendancy to push the gun either right or left. Look at the 3:20 min mark of this Todd Jarrett video as he explains it perfectly...


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
 
cbabes said:
Every pro I have followed says to pull straight back like you say, which can be done with different finger positions, but for consitancy use only the first joint. Pulling straight back will be easier this way as you won't have the tendancy to push the gun either right or left. Look at the 3:20 min mark of this Todd Jarrett video as he explains it perfectly...


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
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The video that came with the Para I just recd, had Tod Jarret saying to use the pad of the trigger finger. All other things remain the same.
 
cbabes said:
Every pro I have followed says to pull straight back like you say, which can be done with different finger positions, but for consitancy use only the first joint. Pulling straight back will be easier this way as you won't have the tendancy to push the gun either right or left. Look at the 3:20 min mark of this Todd Jarrett video as he explains it perfectly...


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
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I, and many others, have shot with EVERY digit on both hands, with pens, pencils upside down, OTHER people's fingers...it just doesn't matter.

And yes, I am a miserable ####, but only my friends have the honor of saying such...you are not among those, so STFU.
 
Nemesys,
You are partially correct. In the grand scheme of things what presses the trigger is irrelevant. However, placement of the the finger aids greatly in proper grip and trigger control. The pad of the first digit is the optimal location. Trigger control and sight alignment are the only factors to be concerned with. Unfortunately both are influenced by grip, finger placement, stance, and eye selection(one or both).

TDC
 
novan3 said:
Cool range, where is that?
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DVC, in Port Coquitlam (Near Vancouver, B.C.) I love it as it's the only place I've found in the lower mainland that is indoor and has target returns. It's so much easier to get in a good practice session when you don't have to wait forever to change your target papers or adjust the distance to your targets. I've only started shooting there a few weeks ago, but so far all the staff have been excellent and as with any club I've been around, the other members seem friendly and helpful. The memberships are more expensive than the other clubs near/around Vancouver, but given that I can actually use the club in any weather and after work during weekdays, I think it's well worth it. Plus, the owner and staff are all IPSC shooters and they've been giving me advice that has really helped me improve my shooting. I still keep a membership up at PCDHFC for rifle shooting (200yards on range 7) plus I like chatting with many of the pcdhfc members and staff...
 
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