Retriever Training

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So, after reading northwoodslivin's post with his new hunting buddy http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198933
I thought I could put together a Diary of sorts of Retriever Training. I am by no means an expert on the topic, but I have trained a couple of dogs. I belong to a Retriever Club in SW Ontario, SWORTC, and really enjoy Waterfowl Hunting. My focus is mainly on Hunt Tests, but all the techniques and training would apply to Field Trials and other disciplines as well. Northwoodslivin was interested in upland hunting with a Lab, and this would be touched on, as Hunt Tests require "Quartering" and "Sit to the Flush" portions in the Senior and Master Level.

I hope to encourage others that may have thought about getting a Lab, but were unsure about how to train them. Also, I would like others to give their input, as I know there are other Retriever people on this board with lots of experience.

Well, last night I picked up my new 7 week old puppy from the breeder. They are members of my dog club, and have been in the Field Trial game for quite a number of years, and have had some exceptional dogs to their credit.

I wanted a Female, and I knew about their litter months ago, and gave them a deposit for a puppy, so this gave me "first pick" of the females. Last night was my first time seeing the puppies, although they had sent me some photo's of the litter via email:
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Basically we separated the four females from the males, and took them outside to wander around. I could see that they were all very, very similar in body shape and size, and my preference is for the smaller bodied dogs, they just seem more athletic to me. One was super active, almost to much so, so I took her out of my list. After about 15 mins. of being outside, we took them into the upstairs of their house, somewhere the pups had never been before, and watched for their reactions. Two out of the three, immediately started exploring, while the other one was a little more cautious, so she was taken off the list. With the two left, one had a pink collar the other an orange one, I chose the orange puppy, cause I am not a fan of pink.

There, that is my process for picking pups, there is no magic, or powers that be when choosing, and I am sure they will all be fantastic hunting dogs. The most important part is the Breeding. Good parents with verifiable Field trial and Hunt Test backgrounds, will be more of a determining factor of how they will be for hunting and training.

So this week will basically involve socialization, to my "Pack", which includes an older Chocolate Lab. Crate training, walks around the property, peeing and pooping outside, and the word NO, will be used constantly, as well as her name. They are just pups after all, and it will take her some time to get used to my routine, as well as my other dogs space.

Here she is, Camma:

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Toilet paper roll retrieving already! Its in their blood:D
 
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Camma is a cutie!

That is interesting how you said that you look for the smaller bodied labs. Funny you make mention of that because I had the choice of Brandy or her sister which was 15lbs bigger and an inch or two taller. But I picked the smaller dog because she was much less hyper then her sister.

I am going to favourite this thread and will look forward to hearing your progress and input!

Thank you for making mention of my thread as well :)

PS
Your new pup has some nice thick legs on her, she's going to be a big dog! I bet she will be 65-75lbs when she's done growing!
Again, beautiful dog :)
 
Progress Report

Well, the little monster is now 11 weeks old, and much has been learned. She is just about house trained, she sometimes gets a little excited and has to have a Pee "Right Now", but usually she starts to whine near the door to get out. We have started to work on sit, she understands the concept, just not that sit means sit right away. Every day we get a few bumpers thrown outside for retreiver training, and she comes back quite reliably to the whistle.

Yesterday I introduced a 209 Blank Pistol into the mix. I threw a bumper as far as I could, and just as she had the bumper in her mouth I fired a shot. She obviously looked around for the source of the new sound, but I gave her a couple of toots with the whistle, and she came right back to me with the bumper. I then threw another one, and fired when she was about 5' from the bumper, but she still went for the bumper, and came right back. Did this again, and when she was on the way back, fired a couple more times, while tooting on the whistle, and she really seemed to be enjoying herself. I will continue with this, firing the blank gun closer and closer to her, and I am sure there will be no problems.

Today we started with a frozen duck. Main thing to be concerned with here is to not let them start eating the duck, and using a frozen one helps with that. I shot a couple smaller ducks this year, Teal work well for puppies, due to their size. Throwing the duck, just like a bumper, and using the whistle for recall, there was no problems. She loves life, and everyday she experiences something new, which is very important, to keep them interested and focused.

A friends older dog is about to give young Camma, a lesson:
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Lesson learned:
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Duck Retrieval:
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Look at me, I have a Duck!:
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great stuff. i've been training retrievers since i was 14. that's about 41 years ago. ouch!! anyway i made lots of mistakes then but they still turned out to be decent duck dogs , as well as great pets. it's nice to see a pup carrying the bluebill or ringneck. i field trialed for a while , but didn't have the time for all the travel. i have beagles as deer hounds as well and NOTHING makes a hunt like dog there with you. you gotta be a dog lover for this. to train them , feed them and vet them to pick up 25 or 30 ducks a year that you could damn well row out and pick up yourself? there's no doubt, a good retriever really makes a duck hunt. good luck with your little "monster" hehe
 
This is sort of related. We decided never to train our Lab as a retriever, but to keep him as just a pet. This was decided before we went to look at the litter. We chose him by standing out in the field with the 14 puppies...ignoring the goldens and chocolates because we wanted a black....then picking him because he came right up to me and fell asleep right on my foot.

I ignored all of the haywire psychos who were flying around yapping. Worked fine for what we wanted. I suppose he picked me out.

He has gone from strength to strength and now sleeps at my feet when I am on the couch and has mastered sleeping by my feet on the bed. (Right between my wife and myself for maximum attention grabbing potential)

;)
 
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