reverse fake suppressors...and accuracy

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A bit of preamble: Back in the dim distant past I owned a Ruger Mini-14 which was modified by the addition of a barrel shroud/device that attached more-or-less like one of the fake reverse suppressors sold by TNA and others. It was made of aluminum and carbon fibre, and required gunsmith installation of a muzzle portion onto the barrel to which the rest of the gizmo attached. It extended back almost all the way to the gas block, without actually touching the block. It was essentially a tube that contacted the barrel only at the very front; the geometry of the thing was designed to impart a great amount of increased rigidity to the barrel.

Not only did it look very cool, but it was likely the single biggest improvement I ever made to a Mini-14. That gun was almost MOA with almost any factory load I tried, and well sub-MOA with its favourites. It was noticeably heavier and more muzzle-heavy than the stock gun, but was absolutely the best Mini I ever owned, and I owned a bunch.

The reverse fake suppressors look like exactly the same idea, although a fair bit shorter and smaller, and much easier to install if your barrel is already threaded. But although I hear users drooling about how great they look, I haven't noticed anybody talking about any changes to the accuracy of the rifle.

I have a Ruger American Ranch in .223 that is already plenty accurate for my uses for it, but I can't help but think one of these might improve it further. I don't really care about the cosmetics, but I'm not a fan of extra weight for no practical gain. I'll probably try one out, since they're not expensive and seem to be easy to sell on the EE if I don't like it. The TNA steel ones seem to weight about 12 ounces, and even the aluminum version TNA sells is still listed at 10 ounces; either one seems dang heavy. I'm just curious if anyone else has used one and achieved anything other than increased bad-assed-ness.
 
Congratulations. You have reinvented the tuner, albeit in a slightly different form. - dan

No. A tuner is adjustable, to allow some control over changes in the barrel harmonics when a shot is fired. It isn't meant to stiffen the barrel.

The Clarke device was not adjustable at all, but was intended to stiffen the barrel considerably. The reverse tubes on the fake suppressors attach the same way and extend back over the barrel the same way, so theoretically they should do the same thing, but they are smaller so the effect is probably reduced. I was just questioning if anyone had noticed any effect at all.
 
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dan's not wrong though, its acting like a tuner, or perhaps like a vibration dampener. Non adjustable as you mention. I had a reverse fake suppressor on for a while. Took it off after a few months as I considered it a liability; felt like I could have snapped the threaded portion of the barrel off if I would have put too much pressure on the back of the fake suppressor.
 
I put a brake on my m14s and it made a significant difference in accuracy with a certain ammo. I think I just lucked out on the weight, and it acted like a tuner.
 
...Um, if it only contacted the barrel at the very front (Like the reverse cans do), it didn't add any rigidity to the barrel at all? The weight/balance change likely contributed to the change in accuracy, but it would have needed a point of contact at the back to increase the rigidity of the barrel.
 
I thought the same thing, i.e. that it would just act as a weight...and it was heavy! Whenever I added any kind of muzzle device to a Mini it seemed to help somewhat with accuracy. The Clarke gizmo turned a 2MOA rifle into a 1MOA rifle. That's a greater increase in accuracy than any single change I ever made, and I did a lot of mods to them over the years.

The advertising and instructions from Clarke went into intricate detail about how the geometry of the tube encircling the barrel stiffened it, whereas if the tube were just mounted out in front it would strictly act as a weight. I'm no engineer, but the thing seemed to work as advertised.

I really wish I still had that gun. I loved Mini-14's and, to a lesser extent, Mini-30's; would never have sold my last one if I ever dreamed I wouldn't be able to buy another...:(
 
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