Rifle suggestions for a newbie

greenie99

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Hi all
new to the forums here and relativly new to guns. i have shot a 30-06 a couple times and a 22 but not on a regular basis. still have to get registered just have to find out when and where i can take the safety course here in kelowna.

looking for sugestions on what type of gun i should purcahse. Im looking to do mostly trarget shooting with a little deer/bear hunting..i dont need a gun that will put me on my ass and i dont need one thats super high end however i would like more then a 22.

thanks for suggestions



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I would say a 303 Lee enfield to start with.They are a great gun to learn on and it will stay with you for the rest of your life they are good.Then I would think about a upper end 270 or a 30/06 bolt gun if you live out west or a pump/semi if you live from Ontario East.
Just keep in mind it is all up to you,Try to handle/shoot all types before you do buy.

Good Luck


Hi all
new to the forums here and relativly new to guns. i have shot a 30-06 a couple times and a 22 but not on a regular basis. still have to get registered just have to find out when and where i can take the safety course here in kelowna.

looking for sugestions on what type of gun i should purcahse. Im looking to do mostly trarget shooting with a little deer/bear hunting..i dont need a gun that will put me on my ass and i dont need one thats super high end however i would like more then a 22.

thanks for suggestions
 
why not a .22? doesnt sound like you have alot of shooting experience so it good to start with cheap and no recoil. plus every collection needs a .22
 
It depends on what knocks you on your butt, any .30 cal? or do you mean .338 or 7mm? I'm not a bear hunter, but I wouldn't go into the woods with something small.

Beyond that, a .22 and like Full Curl said a .303 LE are great and cheap guns to start a collection with. If you want something that makes a bit more noise than a .22 then something in the area of .223 is a great intro to center fire, but may not meet your hunting needs.

Oh and as far as a brand goes, have a look at Savage 10 or 12 series :D

I am biased by having a .22 Savage, .223, .303Brit, .308 Savage :p
 
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Greenie, you've mentioned that you've shot a 30-06 before. If you feel comfortable with it's recoil, I think that it will do you just fine for what you're intended on doing. As a newbie to firearms (and that's nothing to be ashamed of) you'll find the venerable '06 to be a fine caliber. If you're on a limited budget, look at the Stevens 200 in said caliber, a fairly decent purchase which shoots well and won't break the bank, just get decent optics. :)
 
I'd say any bolt gun in .308, or .30-06. Savage Stevens makes a very accurate rifle for the money, but you really would have a hard time going wrong with any of the major brands out there.
 
what's your budget?

A 22lr is a must-have for practice and plinking. Beyond that, I'm a real fan of the 7mm08/270 class cartridges
 
you need more than one gun. Lee Enfield is a must for everyone so why don't you start with one. 22 is just as must. IF you shop carefully you can get both for under 200$.
 
Most are right so far. ESPECIALLY if you get a big game rifle you need a 22. I would say this for many reasons:
- more guns = good
- it's probably the only way you'll be able to afford to shoot enough to be able to shoot the big game gun well
- for starting out in shooting the 'suddenness' of the recoil of the big game rifle will have a psychological effect, even if the recoil does not hurt you or consciously bother you. I needed to and continue to need to shoot a lot of 22 to maintain myself as a good shot with recoiling rifles.

RG

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Most should read the OP a bit closer. He needs more than a 22 because he wants to shoot deer or bear. Sure a couple or three or four plinkers are nice to have around, but a 30.06 would probably work better for big game.
 
The problem maybe that a bear gun wouldn't make a good intro/cheap ammo target gun to learn on.

Maybe get a (>.223) gun that's big enough for deer and small enough for target practice and then later buy a larger caliber for the bear idea. I'm assuming since your just starting out, you'll need some practice before you want to go into the woods after a large predator?
 
Most should read the OP a bit closer. He needs more than a 22 because he wants to shoot deer or bear. Sure a couple or three or four plinkers are nice to have around, but a 30.06 would probably work better for big game.

well thats great if he can afford to feed it, otherwise its not going to be much use to him for learning how to shoot properly. i was taught on a .22 before i was given a 30-06 for deer hunting and i can shoot well because i had a bunch of practice. on the other hand i know someone who shot a 30-06 before bothering with a .22 and he cant shoot worth a damn (he is getting better, after seeing the error of his ways and getting a .22 for lots of practice)
 
There are 3 problems to overcome. The first is learning to shoot well, the second is learning to tolerate the recoil and blast of a centerfire rifle that is suitable for big game hunting, and the third is basic gun handling so you can load, unload, assume firing positions, and carrying the rifle in a comfortable and natural manner.

Cost always plays a part in our decision making process, and the purchase of the first rifle is no different, except that a poor choice can cost us more money down the road. In order to get good at something, you must do it often. "Shooting often" means that you are spending money on ammunition. Handloading can certainly soften the financial burden of shooting, but not everyone wants to take that on. Should you be unwilling or unable to handload, you should consider purchasing a rifle chambered for a round that you can purchase inexpensive surplus ammunition for. The rifle and ammunition should produce a level of accuracy that boosts confidence, and some rifles and ammo are so poor as to leave one with the feeling that becoming a good shot is simply beyond their ability. Very often chopped up Lee Enfield .303 rifles fall into this category, and although there are good ones, they tend to difficult to find, and once found they tend to be as expensive as a good off the rack sporter.

Check the EE for a suitable rifle, but if nothing jumps out at you, Tradex has a large selection of Husqvarna rifles, both commercial sporters and ex-military rifles. These rifles come in a variety of calibers for which inexpensive surplus ammunition is available. There are also a few other manufacturers such as Sako, Brno , and Saiga, but the vast majority is Husqvarna. I would look for a 6.5X55, a .308 (7.62X51), 7.62X54R, 8X57, and maybe even a .30/06. Surplus .30/06 ammo is scarce enough now that it should probably be considered a handloading proposition.

Go to Districorp's site and make sure that there is inexpensive ammo available for the rifle you choose. If you can afford it, buy a case of 1000-1200 rounds. You'll use it up faster than you think. When you have to buy soft point ammo for hunting, it won't break the bank. You'll need a box for checking your zero and a box to hunt with. Districorp sometimes has deals on soft point ammo as well, and the Hungarian stuff seems to be pretty good. When you shoot, save your brass if it's boxer primed. You never know, someday you might want to start reloading.

A used commercial sporter, with a Mauser action, in good condition for less than $500.00 is IMHO superior to a cheaply made new sporting rifle. Some will disagree. The Husqvarna sporters are drilled and tapped for scope mounting, and the bolt handles will clear a low mounted scope, something that is seldom true of a military rifle. If possible, buy a rifle that also comes with metallic sights. Do not buy cheap flimsy scope mounts. Quality mounts aren't cheap, but they are important. If you can't afford a good quality scope, shoot the rifle with the irons until you can afford one. Check the EE for good quality used scopes, I've bought a couple of Leupold's from sellers at 30-50% off the retail price, and those scopes have looked new when I got them. Leupold is a good choice due to the fact that there is a Canadian warranty facility, and these guys (Korth Agencies) give good service and produce good work. Fixed power scopes tend to be cheaper than variables, and there is an argument to be made that they stand up to hard use better. Don't go over 6X if you choose a fixed power scope for a big game rifle, and if you choose a variable don't go much over 3X or 3.5X at the bottom end. In most big game situations lower magnifications are more useful.
 
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Go to Del Selin's Gunsmiths in Vernon . Great guys , they do the firearms course also . They have lots of firearms on the wall . You can get a feel for the one you like and go from there . Get a 308 Win. or the 30-06 . You really can't go wrong with either .
 
Thanks all for the help you all seem like a good bunch and make a young guy like me with little to no experiance not feel like an idiot for askin...makes life easy for a shy guy like me
 
My first hunting rifle was a sporterized 303, mostly because the owner of the rifle did not care if I banged it up a bit, but it shot well and was quite accurate. I myself prefer a 308, you can get it anywhere from 150g to 180g and does not kick hard and is deadly accurate. 270, even a 7mm08 is nice as well, and 30-06 is good for pretty well anything.

Just remember that if you start with something with too much recoil, and you develop a flinch, it takes a long time to fix.
 
until you know exactly what you need you could try something like a Rossi Matched Set.
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.22LR, .243 and .20 gauge for $300. blued/synthetic with a removable raised cheekpiece (not shown).
strictly functional, budget firearms along the lines of the NEF/H&R single shots, but by all accounts accurate and very reliable.

worst case if you decide they are not for you, you can resell them down the road for $250 and recover most of your cash.

they even come in muzzleloaders, as well as matched pairs in many combinations.
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oops, missed the bear hunting part. they do have matched pairs with .30-06, 12ga. etc.
again as a starter set you cant really go wrong. you really should get a .22, like others suggested.
 
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