What kind of accuracy is needed to not be embarrassed in NRL22 style competition? I have a Ruger 10/22 carbine in a factory laminated stock with upgraded trigger (could be switched back to stock) that shoots .6-.75" groups at 50yds and 1.5-2" at 100yds with its favorite ammo (SK rifle match). Thinking of putting a Vortex Diamondback Tactical scope on it. Would this get me started? Otherwise thinking of going to a CZ 457 Varmint but would like to spend the money on a centerfire precision rifle.
Rimfire Precision
- Thread starter fwm
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Your 10/22 will work just fine for that. People like to spend $$$$ on centerfire rifles that need 1000M+ ranges to behave like a Rimfire at 250M. Even with an extensive and expensive reloading setup, only wealthy shooters can afford enough practice centerfire shooting to get really good. SK is $0.25/shot.
Just go have some fun with the 10/22. Given that your rifle is responding well to SK RM, I would suggest you test some Lapua CenterX. if it improves things, use the CX for matches and the RM for practise.
I think CF is a tough sell nowadays as components are hard and crazy money these days. I bet, in ON, there are precious few CF matches... those that compete seem to travel to the US. how can you practise if there are no CF ranges?
Why rimfire has exploded in ON... you have opportunities to actually practise, and improve.
FYI, there are rimfire matches in BC almost every weekend starting March until Oct... I think there will be 2 or 3 CF matches
YMMV
Jerry
I think CF is a tough sell nowadays as components are hard and crazy money these days. I bet, in ON, there are precious few CF matches... those that compete seem to travel to the US. how can you practise if there are no CF ranges?
Why rimfire has exploded in ON... you have opportunities to actually practise, and improve.
FYI, there are rimfire matches in BC almost every weekend starting March until Oct... I think there will be 2 or 3 CF matches
YMMV
Jerry
I say run what you have until it proves to be the hold-back in your score
When you know you are making only good shots and not making bad ones and still missing, then its the equipment
Course of fire are available on the NRL22.com site
Embarrassment is on you though, everyone else will be cheering you on
When you know you are making only good shots and not making bad ones and still missing, then its the equipment
Course of fire are available on the NRL22.com site
Embarrassment is on you though, everyone else will be cheering you on
Thanks for responses. The CF is for 2-3 fun matches I try to make each year, not ultra competitive but fun. The cost has definitely went up steeply even though I'm reloading components from a few years ago they do still need to be replenished at some point. The cost of shooting and the rifle is definitely a factor in considering a bolt rimfire rather than a CF but I also think the 10/22 that I have $450 into shoots better than it should so I'm not sure I gain much by going to a CZ457 at least at this point when I will very likely be the limiting factor not the rifle. I've being tearing up Youtube watching rimfire videos but I have trouble getting as excited over a rimfire as a CF even though I consider the challenge as great or more in the rimfire matches. I also enjoy reloading and finding the load for a CF almost as much as shooting it.
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- Nova Scotia
Yeah I would just go to have fun. I would say thats more than enough to get started. Run a season with it and then see of you want to upgrade.
You can start with your 10/22 then upgrade later if you feel like it's holding you back. You can will probabaly outgrow that scope before the rifle. If you are able to I'd start with a scope that has a 34mm tube and 10 Mil per revolution turrets. Something like the Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2, vortex venom, Bushnell match pro ED.
Next question since I'm getting great feedback. How big of a deal is it to run an MOA scope rather than Mil? Everything I own is MOA and my brain works better in MOA but a couple people I've talked to in person that have shot rimfire matches made it sound like mil is the only way to go, partly because "everyone" runs mil scopes so at matches when competitors are talking about dope it will all be mil speak. I don't think that should be an issue as from what I've seen most of the time you know the cof ahead of time and distances are known. Right now I've changed from a Leupold 2-7 rimfire scope to a Vortex Viper 6.5-20. The Viper is SFP but I'll live with that for now. The bigger concern is the parallax starts at 50yds. As suggested by a few I hope to attend a couple matches with what I've got and upgrade when I feel equipment is holding me back.
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- Rural Atlantic Canada
It's really not an issue, run what you have and have fun. You can print a small conversion card if you want to speak mil with the mil folks.
If you are a meticulous planner who doesn’t need much help because you already have a good solid process, MOA is fine. Kind of like if you understood the range commands but couldn’t speak any other English. Thing is, the shooters that can give you solid expert hold over/dial elevation and wind hold numbers off the top of their head will almost all use mils. If you want to sell the scope, the pool of buyers is limited. Some people are happy with their 2 wheel drive duallies. I won’t even look at one, or at an MOA FFP optic.
MIL is just so much easier and faster to use. I have been an MOA shooter for decades and it took me 5 mins to get used to MILs. FFP will also makes things alot easier and faster as you are constantly dialing, and holding for the stages. Time management is a huge part of this game so anything in the gear that can make this easier/faster, is a good thing.
10mils per revolution on a scope is really paramount. With LR rimfire, you will be dialing some huge numbers on the scope. non base 10 turrets will prove very frustrating to use in time.
Parallax to 10yds is a good option but some scopes allow work arounds when varying mag strength.
My goto scope is the Athlon Helos BTR G2 6-24X56 MIL. It does everything I need/want in a competition scope and does it for surprisingly, low prices. With so many good scope options today, it is not worth fighting your optic
Jerry
