Ross custom target build.

[hacer2]

I dont like double posting but I feel I would be better answered with the fine guru's here

.At the moment I own a very comon m10 sporter ross that has had a hard life.
What I would like to do is strip it down to the action add a match type barrel, do a trigger job and build a target stock, and finish by adding a scope.
The goal of this build would be to build a rifle which would perform at ranges between 600m to possibly 1000m
I am debating maybe using a wildcat catridge or try convert it to a different caliber without the need to modify the bolt.
I have come across some interesting catridges like the 6.5-303 epps which sounds like a good candidate
Has anyone else build target rifles with ross's
I feel it would be a new lease on life to an old and sometimes forgotten rifle

Thank you

 

[buffdog]

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The Ross was not an uncommon rifle in England for target shooting, but mostly in the original .303 British chambering.

 

[hacer2]

Yes in its original condition for the most parts. I am unsure about the consitency of the 303 round at longer distances and also how well the the action can keep up with higher pressures

 

[scott585]

the action if its not damaged will keep up fine with pressures that can be held in brass cases, and .303 is plenty accurate at long range, see the target shooters at bisley.

 

[Tinman204]

Yes in its original condition for the most parts. I am unsure about the consitency of the 303 round at longer distances and also how well the the action can keep up with higher pressures

The Ross m10 should handle high pressures no problem.

I shoot my Ross every weekend and I can't think of a finer rifle new or old!

As for you doing a trigger job, I've shot 3 Rosses now, my own mkIII, my brothers MkIII and a friends MKII and I must say does it get any better then a Ross trigger?

Please keep us Ross nuts updated on this project as we'd love to see pictures!

 

[smellie]

Saw one which was done up with a heavy Douglas 6-groove barrel, modified Mark II magazine, in 7mm Remington Magnum: NO bolt work.

Sure shot nice.

Trigger was stock; they just don't get any better and you always KNOW when it's gonna go.

Forget the weird 6.5s and such: too much "cork" in the bottle gives pressures and gas-cutting and short barrel life. Seven m/m is the ideal bore size, anyway.

Can you HANDLE a 7mm RM, shooting prone?

Or just make up a heavy-barrel 280 Ross, convert brass from .300 Holland. It was already PERFECT.

 

[hacer2]

Thats what I like to hear!

How good would extraction be for the 7mm rem mag

Also there is more reloading data for it

 

[smellie]

NO problems w/extraction.

The M-10 action was designed around the .280 Ross cartridge: working pressure 62,720 psi, Proof pressures up around 90+k.

Originally, actions were factory-lapped before rifles were assembled. Problem is that Rosses have been generally denigrated for the past 90 years, parts have been swapped.

GOOD idea to check your action with machinists' blue. You want even lock-up on ALL SEVEN LUGS. Lap if you must, but only if you MUST. Even lockup = better accuracy.

Barrel should be 26 inches minimum, 28 is better. Varmint-weight.

I shot a 600 - 100 walkup a few years ago (when I could still walk that far) with a 7mmRM in a Jensen-Sako-Tait custom. Rifle was heavy enough to soak up a lot of recoil. Came in Third because I BLEW IT on the 100-yard stage (shot high). Three-inch group at 600, firing rapid.

A Ross should be able to do EVERY bit as good.

Biggest problem on a course like that is keeping the thing cool. Load 3 rounds, fire, open the action, insert last 2 rounds slowly, slap bolt forward JUST before you are ready to shoot. Keep the action OPEN as much as possible for cooling. Cadence your rounds so you are one of the first to fire at any given stage..... and so that yours is the last round in a stage. The longer the bolt stays open between shots, the less variance there will be in pressures.

ALSO, and VERY important, closing the bolt JUST before you want to fire prevents the AMMUNITION from overheating and throwing high.

Hope this helps.

 

[tiriaq]

It would be an interesting project.
But the cost would be substantial if you have to pay someone to do the work, rather than doing it yourself.

 

[WR1894]

The Ross with the scope is a 6.5/303 Epps improved built in 1957 by and Epp's then restocked later, the one above is a 35/303 and restocked with the barrel rebored and rifled again. The 6.5 shoots well but has a slow twist barrel and likes light bullets you would want a fast twist barrel to ues the heavier bullets for long range.
John

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[flying pig]

That would be one awesome and interesting rifle. Would you use target aperture sights or a modern LR target scope? Custom built stock, etc?

I don't know how well .303 works with hot loads and heavy bullets in a tight twisting barrel. Your projectile choices would be fairly limited too. I would go with a wildcat using a .303 case and a readily available long range projectile with a high bc.

Do this build! Would be so neat!

 

[Winchester30-30]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt the ross allready 800-1000 yard rifle? i know the .280 is a great long range gun, my 1905 from what im told is a great target rifle,

 

[hacer2]

I would like to put a good LR scope on it.

Smellie have you ever considered writing a book or 10 on the vast and never ending knowledge you have.

 

[moonshot5]

Is there a good scope mount that can be adapted to a Ross, since new factory ones are not available?

 

[RRCo.]

OP: when you say it's a "sporter" I assume you mean it is a sporterized military rifle? If it is a factory sporter you would be better to leave it alone unless it is a completely shot out, sanded, pitted and dented dog. In which case have at 'er.