ross m10 front band question / alternate ideas ?

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i am considering restoring my cut down ross m1910. i have a gent who is excellent at woood work and has done other milsurp forstocks.
i know from reading various posts on gunnutz, a front ross barrel band are a dream / not many around .
so

is there a band from another rifle wich is CLOSE enough to work / pass muster ( not correct but look mostly right?)
or
any member have a homemade copy or plans on making 1 up?

just a THOUGHT ...........NO use to stretch out the wood as a new forstock with out a front band .
 
By no means a perfect match, but a Lee Enfield No. 4 Front band has a similar size and shape to the Ross. A sling swivel can be hung from the screw if desired. It's definitely not perfect, but it would work, and the Enfield bands are extremely robust.

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That's the mid band. They are obtainable. although it takes some digging! The nosecap however is a very tough critter to find. A few of us have been talking about giving it a go, and eventually they will be reproduced. There are a few different types though, all made by different process. Two of them look very similar, the MkI cap is much different and the real holy grail of the three.
 
There is a project in the works in Toronto to have them reproduced by CNC machine, cost around $100.00 each. About 50 to 100 units to be available, once they are done later this year I will let people know about the source.
 
JP said:
There is a project in the works in Toronto to have them reproduced by CNC machine, cost around $100.00 each. About 50 to 100 units to be available, once they are done later this year I will let people know about the source.
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Great concept! There are way more guns in need than there are complete guns.
 
flying pig said:
That's the mid band. They are obtainable. although it takes some digging! The nosecap however is a very tough critter to find. A few of us have been talking about giving it a go, and eventually they will be reproduced. There are a few different types though, all made by different process. Two of them look very similar, the MkI cap is much different and the real holy grail of the three.
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Oh... yeah, you're right. I guess I didn't read it very well did I? But, if you were lacking a mid-band, and enfield fore-band could work!

Oh the perils of writing and reading after midnight.
 
good info blastattack i have a 2nd ross ( cut down sporter shortened barrel ) i mite get that altered into a ross tanker?? look.........maybe ........

would be most interrested in the TORONTO project---------i could afford that front nose cap = STAY IN TOUCH jp.
 
I ended up making my own from a 2" piece of 1" dia steel pipe and a 2" piece 3/4" dia steel pipe.
I had a hacksaw, vice hammer,file and brazing torch but they came out presentable.

Directions:
CUTTING:
1) Cut 1" dia steel (or galvanized pipe) 2" in length
2) Cut 3/4" dia steel (or galvanized pipe) 2" in length
3) Remove a lengthwise section of steel about 1/2" wide of the 1" dia pipe
4) Cut the 3/4" pipe lengthwise exactly in half

SHAPING:
5) The remaining section of 1" dia pipe needs to be bent into a "U" shape. A vise and a heavy hammer worked for me. Flatten the two ends to form the flat arms of the "U". Use a round 3/4" piece of pipe to help form the inside round of the "U"

FITTING COMPONENTS:
6) Knowing the inside height is about 1 1/2" long, use a dremmel with a cutting disk to cut a shallow trough on either side of the U-shape so that the 3/4" section of pipe will slide into the trough and secure the location of the two parts.
7) check your dimensions (estimated to be inside height: 1 1/2" and width: 1"; be sure to verify and adapt this to your rifle dimensions). The vise can squeeze the parts higher or wider.

WELDING:
8) I tried electric arc weld and brazing and the brazing was by far the easiest. Flux along the interface points and braze using enough brazing material to fill in the gap and give you a chance to file an inside and outside radius at the intersection of the two parts.

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9) Refer to shetch and make these out of scrap steel using a hacksaw, dremmel, file and drill

FINISH:
10) I used black Tremclad paint but a blueing method would have been preferred (the brazing material will need to be coloured ith paint or ink as it will not take the blueing.

FITTING ON RIFLE STOCK:
11) I don't recommend filing down/fitting a proper Ross full length stock but had no problem with filing and fitting my sporter stock with my home-made wood forearm piece.




 
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According my friend Project is still a go. Waiting on the machinist to find time to fabricate the parts, no timeline for parts to be available yet.
 
I am leaving for Europe, so I won't be seeing him untill middle of June. I will you an update at that time.
 
JP said:
According my friend Project is still a go. Waiting on the machinist to find time to fabricate the parts, no timeline for parts to be available yet.
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Sure would be interested in this, have a nice sporter just waiting to be brought back to life as a "desporterized" version!!

Rodney
 
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