Ross Model 1912 Single Shot .22 - What's so special?

What are the details of that rifle? I signed up for that forum but I forgot my info and the address that I used.

That's a high price. I would expect only the scope mounted Cadet with original scope would sell for that much.

I love Ross cadets... not that much though.
 
skirsons said:
What are the details of that rifle? I signed up for that forum but I forgot my info and the address that I used.

That's a high price. I would expect only the scope mounted Cadet with original scope would sell for that much.

I love Ross cadets... not that much though.
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Don't see any record of you, perhaps it was deleted after six months of no activity. If you aren't a member you can register quickly again for FREE. Sorry, but if we don't have people register with legitimate email addresses, we get plastered with posts from spammers sellling on-line presciption drugs and advertising ####ography sites. :D

There's four pages of other Enfields, Mausers and experimental British pieces in the thread that went at auction, complete with pics and final prices. Even an Aussie No.6 Mk1 that I bid on early, but quit long before it went for $6,700 (not including 15% buyers premium). It wasn't serial numbered between XP101 and XP149, which I believe it should be if it’s all correct. In fact, there was no serial number on it at all. A few of the serious Enfield collectors thought it looked odd, but looking at the pics and comparing to Skennerton's book, it appears correct.

The Ross Cadet doesn't appear to have a scope ...

I agree with you, I thought it was an incredibly high price, but I just wondered if I was missing something else that made it particularly unique. :confused:

Lot 2428. Ross Model 1912 Single Shot Training Rifle. Cal. 22. S# A172. Overall condition is good. Bore is bright. Receiver and barrel show approx. 80% of a blue scattered with brown with some apparent touch up on the front 2”. Barrel bands show approx. 80% original blue. Buttstock shows good with light scuffs and several dates and inspection marks on the right side. (07-2357 / BK / BS) Curio. Est. $ 500 - 700.
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Regards,
Badger
 
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Unless there's something special about that serial number, there's nothing special about the rifle. Mine has tons more markings on the stock. The estimate even seems high...

An American auction?
 
The auction estimate seems a bit high for what these rifles sell for in this country.
I can't see anything about the rifle that would justify that sort of price. At least two people must have thought they knew something no one else did. IMHO opinion, the realized price is ridiculous, but then again, what do I know? If that is what Ross cadets are worth in the US, every last one in this country is going to be sent south.
I would like to see what Wheaty or Rossguy have to say.
 
If the serial number given- "A 172" has an equally clear "1913" under the 172, it's a Military Cadet, First (1913) Contract. Nothing special at all, and even with say, 75%+ original finish, I couldn't see any more than $500-$600 on a good day for it...I'd expect the stock to be covered with Regimental and/or Cadet Corps stamps for that money, too! Another Canadian escapee regularly advertises unusual Ross Cadets for silly money on the 'net- they seem to stay on the East Coast, though; good story or not....perhaps the Cadet is one price, and the story's another.Hope someone comes up with either details or photos.For $4,600 plus 15% premium, I will sell him another ten!(as long as he's not in Canada, of course!)
 
Rossguy said:
....perhaps the Cadet is one price, and the story's another.Hope someone comes up with either details or photos.For $4,600 plus 15% premium, I will sell him another ten!(as long as he's not in Canada, of course!)
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I'll help you sell them ... :D

I was shocked, which is why I asked here about Ross values. I even asked the guy twice who was phone bidding for me (I was waiting in line to bid on next item), if he was sure of that final price. There has to be something wrong. Maybe he was confused with lot numbers, but he seemed positive. Anyway, as soon as I get my catalogs with final sale prices, I'll check it and post back here if there's a mistake.

The prices were generally way too high, as it was for the late Bruce Stern collection, which had some of the highest quality material to come to market in a long time.

Another piece I'm definitely sure on price because I was bidding on it was:

*MAUSER CE/43 98K SHORT RAIL SNIPER RIFLE WITH SLING AND BAYONET. SN 7674. Cal. 8mm.http://www.milsurps.com/showpost.php?p=12195&postcount=5204http://www.milsurps.com/showpost.php?p=12195&postcount=5204

Sold for $24,150 U.S. :D
Price includes auction house Buyer's Premium of 15-17%

I quite bidding early on that one .. ;)

I did win a few items, which I've started posting in the "Purchases" thread here and in the Knowledge Library.

March 2008 Dealshttp://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=2932

Thanks for the feedback ... :cheers:

Regards,
Badger
 
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