Looking to sell a very nice original condition .280 Ross Sporter I was told that Gunnutz was the place to post it, but I don't see a buy&sell forum on site, I made a few replys to posts yesterday on this site, and found I can not post a photo I am not very handy with computer and photo uploading. any help would be nice
Ross rifles...what do you think?
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Thanks John Y Canuck I try!!!
and Thanks Gibbs 505 ; I think you can spell pretty good, knowing or remebering about the LONG TON very smart man, thanks
I found on site www.chuckhawks.com/ross_rifle
A articale on A FAST SHADY LADY by Erin Boyd that the ross ,280 was over 3000fps and another place 3100 man my new 7mmwsm is over 60000lbs pressure
so back in 1910 they need to have over 28ton english or maybe more than the bolt might come back!!
and Thanks Gibbs 505 ; I think you can spell pretty good, knowing or remebering about the LONG TON very smart man, thanks
I found on site www.chuckhawks.com/ross_rifle
A articale on A FAST SHADY LADY by Erin Boyd that the ross ,280 was over 3000fps and another place 3100 man my new 7mmwsm is over 60000lbs pressure
so back in 1910 they need to have over 28ton english or maybe more than the bolt might come back!!
BIGREDD said:
The fear expressed here by you and others is more based on urban myth than fact. It is easy to see how the Ross bolt head locks into place. For the rifle to fire otherwise would require the bolt to be essentially held closed while you pull the trigger.
This is akin to avoiding Berettas because of the failing slide stories. In either case you really need to work to hurt yourself, but it is possible. Handloading posses a greater risk. Shooting old corroded ammo posses a greater risk too.
I've read of (note the referance, read of, not experienced myself, seen, saw pictures of, or even was told by someone I trust) two instances of the bolt mishap happening with a Ross. One of a civilian hunter and one in the military. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? I don't think so. I have a Ross, and if you pay attention you can see the bolt turn into battery, only someone not paying attention could get in harms way. On the other hand, I have seen Berretta slides that were cracked, and numerous blown up rifles (Winchester and Remington, as well as others). I've seen cracked frame 1911's, blown up cylinders in S&W's and Colts and Rugers, snapped frame pins in Contenders. Should we avoid all these firearms because of a possible flaw? It's a machine. Pay attention to what it does, how it does it, and what you do, and there shouldn't be any problems. - dan
I think most of the problems involved the militry in WW1 and the Ross M10. The rifle simply was not siuted the the conditions of the war and the attention paid to in by the soldiers in the primative conditions of the western front!
Now it has a bad name that it cannot live down!
Gibbs505 said:
Yes documented AND extremely rare. Remember how many rifles Ross made, and how long they were used, and how many rounds the various militaries that used them fired.
The Beretta failures are also documented, and also rare, yet there seems to be plenty in use without problems.
While on the subject of Rosses...
I was playing around with the idea of using one of my Ross M-10's for hunting. I took one of my partially sized cases, which which has been sized to my tightest chambered bolt gun (a P-14) I wanted to check to see if it offered any interference to the closure of the action - the equivalent of closing the bolt on a regular bolt gun. The bolt closed, but I could not tell if it was fully seated. (It would appear that the bolthead stop is simply the limit of rotation in the receiver threads.)
The rifle was able to dry fire... Has anyone any experience in this matter? Perhaps its not an issue - if the bolt head threads are of sufficient pitch to be self locking, having them slightly ajar would be OK.
The subject has piqued my interest - even checking rim headspace would be challenging.
I was playing around with the idea of using one of my Ross M-10's for hunting. I took one of my partially sized cases, which which has been sized to my tightest chambered bolt gun (a P-14) I wanted to check to see if it offered any interference to the closure of the action - the equivalent of closing the bolt on a regular bolt gun. The bolt closed, but I could not tell if it was fully seated. (It would appear that the bolthead stop is simply the limit of rotation in the receiver threads.)
The rifle was able to dry fire... Has anyone any experience in this matter? Perhaps its not an issue - if the bolt head threads are of sufficient pitch to be self locking, having them slightly ajar would be OK.
The subject has piqued my interest - even checking rim headspace would be challenging.
Biggest problem with the Ross in the Great War was oversized ammo being issued to the Canadian troops. NO rifle will chamber a grossly-oversized cartridge.
This was all investigated and made public many years ago. Truth is, the Ross Rifle story was just as political as any other stink in Canadian history.
The 1910 action had a couple of flaws, YES. But these flaws should have been taken care of. Instead, the government ordered full-out manufactore of a rifle that was still really in the trials stage; deliveries in number had only started when the war broke out.
The Ross remains one of the most accurate rifles EVER built. Feed it with decent ammo, take reasonable care in putting it together and you will have NO problems. I have been playing with Rosses for over 40 years, still have both my eyes and all my fingers..... and some groups on paper that you would be hard-put to duplicate with a modern rifle WITH a scope.
Good luck with Rosses! They are still the best.
This was all investigated and made public many years ago. Truth is, the Ross Rifle story was just as political as any other stink in Canadian history.
The 1910 action had a couple of flaws, YES. But these flaws should have been taken care of. Instead, the government ordered full-out manufactore of a rifle that was still really in the trials stage; deliveries in number had only started when the war broke out.
The Ross remains one of the most accurate rifles EVER built. Feed it with decent ammo, take reasonable care in putting it together and you will have NO problems. I have been playing with Rosses for over 40 years, still have both my eyes and all my fingers..... and some groups on paper that you would be hard-put to duplicate with a modern rifle WITH a scope.
Good luck with Rosses! They are still the best.
