Forest1488
CGN Regular
- Location
- South of Toronto
I just saw this ammo being offered on the CSC site. I know nothing of this brand and would welcome any of your comments on this stuff.
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RUAG 7.62 - Your Experience
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Forest1488
CGN Regular
- Location
- South of Toronto
Yea it did seem quite expensive. Was wondering if the quality was approaching the level whereby it would be worth buying for a bolt action.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
in my opinion, RUAG is the highest quality ammunition company in the world. Quality is their first priority. Producing subsidiaries are located in Germany, Hungary, USA and Sweden. The products for the civil market are branded under the names RWS, Geco, Rottweil, Norma and Gyttorp. I have never had a single problem with any of their ammunition. I cannot say that about the big American ammunition companies, and certainly Chinese ammo is bottom of the list by comparison.
Yup it’s reloadable and it’s boxer primed
My cz 527 doesn’t like it though for some reason, not getting good primer ignition with it
Sks and type 81 shoot it fine
After I have reloaded it my cz shoots it really well so it must be something to do with the factory primers
My cz 527 doesn’t like it though for some reason, not getting good primer ignition with it
Sks and type 81 shoot it fine
After I have reloaded it my cz shoots it really well so it must be something to do with the factory primers
- Location
- Steel Town
I bought a box of 50 several years ago. The brass is very high quality and it was very accurate. Too good for an SKS. Better for a CZ Carbine or other bolt gun.
Ruag was and still is one of the manufactures of GP11 the the Thun and Altdorf sites. Now together with Rotweil, RWS, Geco and Norma.
https://www.ruag.com/en/products-services/land
I've fired a fair amount of their SM branded 7.62 Nato with match bullets. Still use the brass.
https://www.ruag.com/en/products-services/land
I've fired a fair amount of their SM branded 7.62 Nato with match bullets. Still use the brass.
- Location
- Prairie drifter
My experience was not good. 5 MOA at best. You can see from all the patch tape how badly it was shooting. I was using my Spectre with a MRA barrel. It will print 2 MOA groups with Barnaul steel case all day. The brass is top notch so hopefully I can get some decent handloads with it.
- Location
- Prairie drifter
Went shooting again today, here is a cleaner target. Still terrible. I wonder if it is a .308" bullet.
I haven't tried their 7.62 Nato ammunition but I did pick up a couple of sealed cans of their 5.56 Nato a couple of years ago.
At first I thought it was crap. I shot it through three different known to be accurate rigs and my groups were similar to yours.
Then, shortly after reading a discussion between Ganderite and a couple of other good CGNers, which was about why a great batch of surplus ammo wouldn't shoot well, after an over winter storage.
What they agreed was the cause of the recalcitrant ammo was CASE NECK TO BULLET WELD.
I had never heard of it before. I had what I thought were bad batches of surplus ammunition before, especially 303Brit and 8x57.
One thing I had noticed was when I bought large quantities of surplus ammo, say by the pallet or two, that had some sort of sealant, everything from black, tar like to red or green nail polish, shot pretty well. So, if I possibly could, I bought it in quantity. Most for my own use, but also for resale several years later, at considerable profit.
What did I have to lose by breaking the case/neck weld?? Nothing that I could think of.
So, I took a hundred rounds and ran them through my reloading press. I only pushed them back .005 in. and it made a huge difference. The groups weren't stellar but almost acceptable for their intended use.
I ended up pulling all of the bullets and blending all of the powder that came from those rounds. Then, of course, I reassembled everything back to .010 in over its original length.
It was as if the sun shone on those rounds, the rifles they were used in shot them around 3/4moa at 100 and opened up about half an inch at 300.
I'm not saying that this will work for your ammo, but what do you have to lose? Give it a try.
Before reloading the ammo, weigh those bullets, if the weights vary to much, which I doubt they will, then sort them by weight before reloading and keep the different weights separate. Each of those weight groups will likely group very well.
At first I thought it was crap. I shot it through three different known to be accurate rigs and my groups were similar to yours.
Then, shortly after reading a discussion between Ganderite and a couple of other good CGNers, which was about why a great batch of surplus ammo wouldn't shoot well, after an over winter storage.
What they agreed was the cause of the recalcitrant ammo was CASE NECK TO BULLET WELD.
I had never heard of it before. I had what I thought were bad batches of surplus ammunition before, especially 303Brit and 8x57.
One thing I had noticed was when I bought large quantities of surplus ammo, say by the pallet or two, that had some sort of sealant, everything from black, tar like to red or green nail polish, shot pretty well. So, if I possibly could, I bought it in quantity. Most for my own use, but also for resale several years later, at considerable profit.
What did I have to lose by breaking the case/neck weld?? Nothing that I could think of.
So, I took a hundred rounds and ran them through my reloading press. I only pushed them back .005 in. and it made a huge difference. The groups weren't stellar but almost acceptable for their intended use.
I ended up pulling all of the bullets and blending all of the powder that came from those rounds. Then, of course, I reassembled everything back to .010 in over its original length.
It was as if the sun shone on those rounds, the rifles they were used in shot them around 3/4moa at 100 and opened up about half an inch at 300.
I'm not saying that this will work for your ammo, but what do you have to lose? Give it a try.
Before reloading the ammo, weigh those bullets, if the weights vary to much, which I doubt they will, then sort them by weight before reloading and keep the different weights separate. Each of those weight groups will likely group very well.
