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why would ruger withdraw its .350 magnum allweather model from production?Was it in a short action that could not accomodate a bullet longer than the 225 gr?I understand the basically equivilent 35 whelen could be loaded with heavier[and longer] bullets.
 
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Not enough demand maybe? I believe the Ruger receiver allows for a slightly longer COL then the Remington, so that would allow 250 gr bullets fairly easily. And truthfully, in factory ammo, a 2.8" 250 gr 350 load will give you pretty much everything and a bit more then the same factory loading in the 35 Whelen. I'm guessing it was economics. - dan
 
my understanding is ,it was no longer offered in 2007.I had thought it was, but a check of the suppliers showed otherwise.The funny thing is-it seems to be an ideal hunting caliber/rifle combination for larger game,yet has fallen victim to the economics of sales-it seems most hunters are opting for the 338 when the 350 magnum accomplishes most of it with less recoil,and given the fact that although the 338 is clearly a better choice for the over 300 yard shots-most moose/bear are taken in less than half that range.Perhaps the real reason for the lack of sales is hunters being influenced more by magazine articles than actual field experiance-of which the older 35 whelen needs no apologies
 
Unfortunately here in Canada, we are at the mercy of what our local distributors want to carry for inventory. It is too bad because it really limits the selection. But I think if someone placed a solid order for one, they will bring one in - it just might take a long time.

I guess I was lucky last year as I ordered one and it took nearly 7 months, but it did eventually arrive. I am glad that it did, because I love my Ruger 350RM. Accurate, rugged, and enough power to handle anything in North America (within reasonable distances) - what more could anyone ask for?
 
Marlin & Hornady are soon to announce the 360 Marlin Magnum, it fires a 250 grain bullet @ 2500 fps and has a short COAL of 2.8"
 
because I love my Ruger 350RM...I love my Ruger 350RM. Accurate, rugged, and enough power to handle anything in North America (within reasonable distances) - what more could anyone ask for?
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Me too - saw it at a gun shop fresh off the delivery van that day and bought it in a heart beat. I still love it. However it now lives life with a 350WSM chamber - but no flys on the original 350RM chambering in my opinion either.
Was it in a short action that could not accomodate a bullet longer than the 225 gr?
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No - a COAL of 2.885" works with the M77/350RM magazine, and with long factory throating, the 250s worked fine in mine as a 350RM. I believe 280s, 300s and 310s also would work well - especially with its faster factory twist of 1 in 12. But I hope to be testing these "heavy-for-calibres" soon - but of course launching them from the larger 350WSM chamber.
I'm guessing it was economics. - dan
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Maybe just making room for and changing focus onto the newer updated version Hawkeye77 series including stainless etc.
 
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apart from an improved trigger-what diference would there be between a 350 magnum allweather and the new Hawkeye 358 allweather?
 
358 would be more ideal with 225 grain bullets, 35 Whelen & 350 RM have the case capacity to push the 250 grainer to useable speeds.
 
I'm wondering if heavy recoil was a factor in the 350 not generating enough sales in the allweather model,and if the 358 with 225gr bullets would address this issue
 
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I'm wondering if heavy recoil was a factor in the 350 not generating enough sales in the allweather model,and if the 358 with 225gr bullets would address this issue
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300 WM's and 338 WM's will recoil about the same as the 350 RM and people buy them all day long.

I'd say the biggest factor is that the 350 RM, useful as it may be, is neither as powerful or as flat shooting as a 338 WM, and when you have the rifles side by each, the 1/2" difference between the scope rings isn;t worth having an oddball caliber that is (practically) a handload only hunting rifle.
 
but isn't there an ''efficiency'' factor which dictates how much powder it takes to move a certain size and weight projectile, plus the SD factor,and although a 338 is without a doubt more powerful and flat shooting-at what expense?I seem to recall an article that stated a 35 whelen was one of the most practical hunting cartridges available-and the 350RM was close to that.I'm not sure where the 358 was on that scale
 
that is (practically) a handload only hunting rifle.
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Yep only one - yes one - factory load for the 350RM and it is not the best for bigger game. That's not good for sales when compared to the ole standbys like 300Winmag and others.
358 would be more ideal with 225 grain bullets, 35 Whelen & 350 RM have the case capacity to push the 250 grainer to useable speeds.
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True to a point - but the 358 is VERY useful with 250s at between 2250 and 2300 - even useful with slower MV like 2150 - just ask "Why Not" and company from the Yukon. But if wanting longer legs, then the 35Whelen and 350RM give a better platform to reach out extra yardage as todbartell suggests.
 
I'm trying to figure out what advantage or reason there would be for Ruger to discontinue offering the .350 rm in the allweather and replace it with the .358?I can understand offering the new model with an improved trigger-that is always good-but why would they drop the .350 RM?
 
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I'm trying to figure out what advantage or reason there would be for Ruger to discontinue offering the .350 rm in the allweather and replace it with the .358?I can understand offering the new model with an improved trigger-that is always good-but why would they drop the .350 RM?
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Okay, where exactly did you learn that Ruger is discontinuing the 350 in all weather? I'm not trying to be difficult, but I am confused. I provided a link in my earlier post to the MKII all weathers on the Ruger website and it clearly lists the 350RM in the MKII. The new Hawkeye model does not come in 350RM, but that doesn't suggest (to me anyway) that it is discontinued.

If I am mistaken, please shed some light on this for me.

Thank you.

James
 
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