Ruger American-Maybe not MOA out of the box

Zero the adjustments of the scope get and bigger target get closer.


Ruger has always been apart of the race to the bottom. Still shocking news to some it seems.
 
I found that Federal bulk box 223/5.56 ammo had about a 2-3% failure to ignite on first snap. PMC bulk FMJ seems to ignite 99.9%. Handloads with CCI primers ignite 100% so far. I'm not surprised that the ammo made for AR15's doesn't always go bang in a bolt action though.

All problems with batches of bulk Federal to date, so lines up with your experiences. Thanks for info. Most likely the ammo then, will still check pin for my peace of mind.
 
<LOL> ...... The irony here is that many of the new entry class "junk" guns shoot as well or better than guns we paid a premium for 25yrs ago.

They might not be pretty, but ........

I'm at the stage in my life that I have a limited supply of firearms, however they are of good quality. Case in point, I never did own any junk firearms, the least quality one I owned was possibly a Remington Model 700 ADL, which worked flawlessly. Do you own any of today's junk firearms?
 
After the gun ban last year I bought 2 Ruger Americans in 5.56 to use my many AR15 magazines. Their round count is now 3500-4000 each so I have a reasonably good idea of how the rifles perform. I haven't shot a group with them recently nor do I intend to but they can hit a 2" gong at 100 yards every time with bulk ammo so I think they remain accurate enough for any sort of hunting purpose. Any malfunction that they have had was magazine or ammunition related so I would say the rifle design is reliable enough too.

May have to pull the pin on one. My old Savage 112 .223 Varmint with the 26" trailer axle barrel gets a bit heavy after a while, but boy does it shoot.
 
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<LOL> ...... The irony here is that many of the new entry class "junk" guns shoot as well or better than guns we paid a premium for 25yrs ago.

They might not be pretty, but ........

Give them time and years and we'll see how well they shoot. From a long-term (and short-term!) reliability perspective, they don't match-up in my experiences.

And you have to tie a pork chop around the barrel to get the neighbour's dog to play with them.
 
Give them time and years and we'll see how well they shoot. From a long-term (and short-term!) reliability perspective, they don't match-up in my experiences. They ain't pretty but they shoot.

And you have to tie a pork chop around the barrel to get the neighbour's dog to play with them.
Had both of mine 270 and 3006 for 6 years and still sub moa and they have not been as babied as the Sako. They ain't pretty but they shoot.
 
I have a fairly new Ruger American, and I cant hit a damn thing. I bore sighted and tried to zero it in at 50, 75 and 100. Out at 100 nothing is on paper, I'm no Flinching Flynn, .308 isnt new to me. The rifle claims to be free floated, but looking at the fore end, its contacting the barrel. Somewhere on the internet, I've read other people having this issue and just dremelling it away until its truly free floated. I don't know if i was just unlucky with 25 rnds, or if i need to re-think my zero'ing strategy.

What ammo are you using? I was getting 6" groups @ 100y with Federal 180g Power Shok.

I switched Hornady 168g and with no adjustments group size went to 1.75" @ 100y
 
I went with a heavy contour barrel with my Savage.

I upgraded to stock, bedded it, have a bunch of room between the front of the stock and barrel, had a buddy recrown it.

What I noticed, is the groups open up as the barrel heats up. My ex army buddy makes a point of putting his hand around the barrel, if he can't hold it comfortably he doesn't take another shot.

Here is a typical 119 yard groups using factory Hornady 75 grain .223 ammo outside in a bit of wind, with a dime for reference, and he can shoot better then this!
 
The Ruger American is not your typical rifle. Maybe if people would not purchase "junk" firearms, maybe manufactures will stop making them.

LOL Junk rifles eh ? I bought a RA Ranch in 5.56 when the ban hammer came down last year as I have a very very large stockpile of 5.56. After shooting it for a bit I bought another one to set aside for safe keeping. Here is how they perform.

Rifle #1
Round Count : 2200 +/- 100
Bulk 5.56: 1.4 MOA
Bulk 55 grain campro reloads: 1MOA
68 Grain Hornady BTHP Match: 0.33 MOA
69 Grain Sierra Match King: 0.4 MOA
85 Grain Barnes MatchBurner: 0.75 MOA

Rifle#2
Round Count : 300 or so
Bulk 5.56: 1.5 MOA
Bulk 55 grain campro reloads: 0.9 MOA
68 Grain Hornady BTHP Match: 0.45 MOA
69 Grain Sierra Match King: 0.3 MOA
85 Grain Barnes MatchBurner: 0.65 MOA

For $700 rifles, this is dam good performance. They have proven to be reliable and to hold accuracy with increasing round count. I did have to clean up the bolts to smooth them out, and drop a $20 spring kit in them to get 1.5lb triggers but most rifles need trigger jobs anyways. I don't consider them junk in any way shape or form.
 
Purchased the 5.56 ranch AR mag model because it was on sale, was so impressed by the budget performance I picked one up in 7.62x39 too. Great plinkers for burning through piles of military ammo.


edit forgot to mention the 556 can be picky with primers, haven't got around to measuring to see if firing pin within spec, not all sunshine n rainbows I guess

Strip and clean that bolt. Deburr the firing pin hole. I had issues with mine when i first got it as the bolt was full of oil and factory gunk. Haven't had an issue since.
 
LOL Junk rifles eh ? I bought a RA Ranch in 5.56 when the ban hammer came down last year as I have a very very large stockpile of 5.56. After shooting it for a bit I bought another one to set aside for safe keeping. Here is how they perform.

Rifle #1
Round Count : 2200 +/- 100
Bulk 5.56: 1.4 MOA
Bulk 55 grain campro reloads: 1MOA
68 Grain Hornady BTHP Match: 0.33 MOA
69 Grain Sierra Match King: 0.4 MOA
85 Grain Barnes MatchBurner: 0.75 MOA

Rifle#2
Round Count : 300 or so
Bulk 5.56: 1.5 MOA
Bulk 55 grain campro reloads: 0.9 MOA
68 Grain Hornady BTHP Match: 0.45 MOA
69 Grain Sierra Match King: 0.3 MOA
85 Grain Barnes MatchBurner: 0.65 MOA

For $700 rifles, this is dam good performance. They have proven to be reliable and to hold accuracy with increasing round count. I did have to clean up the bolts to smooth them out, and drop a $20 spring kit in them to get 1.5lb triggers but most rifles need trigger jobs anyways. I don't consider them junk in any way shape or form.

This aligns with my experience as well. Mine shoots like a rifle priced twice as much.
 
The more I shoot my RAR in .450 BM, the more I'm lovin' 'er. The beasty is a joy to carry about and just plain fits me good. I stripped it down and gave 'er a
thorough clean and lube before hitting the range for initial sight in & load testing with 360 gr hardcast bombs. Took 5 shots at 25 yds to roughly center up
the scope, then went to the 80 yd butts to dial in better.

I weren't disappointed as I was shooting off me elbows from the bench. :d
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The layout of the action and bedding system on the RA Ranch is solid & simple to tinker with if needed. The hammer forged barrel with 1 in 16" twist is beauty
for the heavy hardcast boolits I prefer in a .45 cal rifle. I've replaced the trigger on my one with a Timney unit that I adjusted to 1.75 lb. The factory trigger
was servicable enough, but I ain't a fan of blade triggers. No worries on barrel clearance in the stock on mine.

Working the bolt does produce a zipper sound that can be toned down with careful honing of the bolt channel along with a bit of bolt polishing for finicky folks
if desired. For the money, I can safely recommend a RAR for folks that want a good performing rifle for the price that carries well in the bush.
 

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i don't understand why you were shooting at 50 and 100 yards. you just wasted a pile of ammo and came away with no information.

start at 25 yards and a clean large target. or even closer. a grouping there will get you started
 
LOL Junk rifles eh ? I bought a RA Ranch in 5.56 when the ban hammer came down last year as I have a very very large stockpile of 5.56. After shooting it for a bit I bought another one to set aside for safe keeping. Here is how they perform.

Rifle #1
Round Count : 2200 +/- 100
Bulk 5.56: 1.4 MOA
Bulk 55 grain campro reloads: 1MOA
68 Grain Hornady BTHP Match: 0.33 MOA
69 Grain Sierra Match King: 0.4 MOA
85 Grain Barnes MatchBurner: 0.75 MOA

Same rifle.
Almost exactly the same ammo.
Add 1-2" to all your measurements (69 gr were at 2.0", 55gr sako at 1.5", 77gr were at 2.5"). Lighter ammo shot best which is weird given the twist.
When cycling the bolt it would also hang up on parts of the receiver.
Just sent it back to SnapShots for warranty we will see what they say.
 
Same rifle.
Almost exactly the same ammo.
Add 1-2" to all your measurements (69 gr were at 2.0", 55gr sako at 1.5", 77gr were at 2.5"). Lighter ammo shot best which is weird given the twist.
When cycling the bolt it would also hang up on parts of the receiver.
Just sent it back to SnapShots for warranty we will see what they say.

That is very odd results. I have never actually witnessed a RA shoot poorly. I hope they get yours resolved.
 
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