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Not sure if this would be considered precision rifle or simply a hunting rifle:

So forgive me in advance if I have erred.

I have been shooting my mosin PU, and my K31 with some good success. In fact, I don't much enjoy iron sight shooting as much as I once did as a result.

The next step for me is a precision rifle - and like a lot of folks, I just can't drop 1800 on the savage BAS-K that I want.

The american rifle can be had for 425 pre-tax. Accuracy reviews indicate it's possible sub-MOA and most reviews are positive.

I would have much preferred a rifle in 223 simply because I am limited to a 100m range.

Anyone here using this rifle? If so - thoughts?
 
It's a hunting rifle - plain & simple. Just like the Stevens 200 and the Savage Axis that get mentioned in this (wrong) forum quite often.
 
ghostntheshell said:
Not sure if this would be considered precision rifle or simply a hunting rifle:
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Probably not.
It'd have to be as accurate as a Savage to be considered a precision rifle.
Most Rugers and Remingtons don't make the cut.
When you hear a shooter fire lots of shots and then watch her check the "1 ragged hole" group the chances are 90% that there's a Savage on her bench.
Seriously, you can bet that Ruger is a well built firearm.
I consider a precision firearm a firearm that can consistently shoot less than 1 MOA (3 shot groups) if the shooter does her part.
If the Ruger American rifle can do that it's a precision rifle.
 
If you're using a rifle for 100m and nothing else I'd say the best thing you could do is buy a Savage MkII in .22lr for 300$ish and some used 15x glass on the EE and have fun shooting very cheap 1MOA or better groups with some match ammo. Not only that, youll get oodles of good practice without wasting money and what a .22 does in the wind at 100m is similar to what other calibers do at greater ranges.

If you really want a center fire then .223 is great but be prepared for the slippery slope ($$$) of precision shooting.
 
torontogungal said:
Probably not.
It'd have to be as accurate as a Savage to be considered a precision rifle.
Most Rugers and Remingtons don't make the cut.
When you hear a shooter fire lots of shots and then watch her check the "1 ragged hole" group the chances are 90% that there's a Savage on her bench.
Seriously, you can bet that Ruger is a well built firearm.
I consider a precision firearm a firearm that can consistently shoot less than 1 MOA (3 shot groups) if the shooter does her part.
If the Ruger American rifle can do that it's a precision rifle.
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Wow, you've shot most Rugers and Remingtons!!??

I have a M-7 in .243 that stays under .75 MOA.
I have a M-700 in .308 that keeps within a half minute . . . at a half mile.
I had a M-700 in .222 with which I could cut the links off a 5/16th chain at 100, and be able to call which side of the link I was about to cut.
I had another M-700 in .30/06 that would consistently print 2" 5 shot groups at 300 yards.
A pal of mine has a .375 Ruger Alaskan that will keep a magazine full of 260 gr Accubonds touching at 100.

Why any of this matters I'm not sure, but there's bound to be a few Savage bolt guns that can keep up, even if I haven't shot them all. I do recall a fellow who owned a Savage 110 with a Douglas barrel in 6mm Remington that was really really good. Back in the '70s I recall ogling a Savage bolt gun in .22-250 that was built into a bench gun topped with a 2" Unertl, now that thing would shoot!l Pounder has a Savage HB .223 with a left hand ejecting right hand bolt thats interesting, but it costs as much as a top end Remington, and for that expense you should get a rifle that shoots.
 
fact of the matter is that the Ruger American was designed for a niche market to compete with the Remington 710/770, Savage Axis/Edge and Stevens 200 group of rifles. These were not designed as precision rifles, some of them happen to shoot and shoot accurately, however these are hunting, plinking guns as was designed. Cool if they can keep up with the big brothers in their herd but alas unless you have taken your gun, stripped it down, tuned it, bedded it, then it is a hunting gun with capability perhaps.
 
The american was designed as a budget hunting rifle. Are there better choices of budget hunting/target rifles that can aventually be modified into percision rifles.Yes!The thing about Questions such as this is ,it seems there are some that have low standards on what level of percision there target rifle should be capable of. For me percision STARTS @ 0.5 moa.When I say 0.5moa I mean a rifle that will average 5 shots (not 3) into 0.5moa or better. The truth comes out after 10 shots for some! I'm not saying that I won't target shoot with a 1 moa gun, its just that I don't think that is a level of percision I would call "percision" but thats just me. For me I expect my hunting rifles to shoot 1 moa or better or I'm not really happy with them. I know that's a little overkill for most hunting situations , but I like my equipment shooting to its potential. For me that is confidence building.
That being said there is nothing wrong with Target shooting non percision guns and discussing them. I learned how to hand load and shoot to a certain level of percision with what I would call a hunting rifle with a long range scope. These so called "budget guns" can be a great tool for learning how to develope loads and shoot. But I don't call them percision guns, Although sometimes I wish it was that easy.
 
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I will likely post a range report with mine in the next week or so. It should be here on Wednesday.
I'll post in the hunting section though.;)
 
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