Ruger V.S. all other firearm manufacter's

mooseman1

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My question is why is Ruger the only gunmaker that had the smarts to make there bolt 77/22 ,there semi 10/22 and there lever 96/22 all use the same loading system as well as interchangeable mag's?

Now the aftermarket world is having a blast producing very afordable mag's, upgrade's,mod's,and whole kit's.This seem's to have caused almost everyone to aquire at least one Ruger in our vast ranger of gun owner's.

True they are a mass produced gun ,but what other gunmaker even comes close to Ruger's number's?

just my 2 cent's,now let's hear your's
 
Rugers

They sure don't have the best triggers, but dollar for dollar, in both handguns and long guns, rimfire and centrefire, they give excellent value for the money, are sturdy, and reliable...........

Price a new Vaquero...then price a new Colt SAA.......you can buy damn near 3 Rugers for the price of one Colt....
 
They set the whole thing up for suckers....seriously.

You gotta hand it to them though....marketing genious!

They can sell a crappy gun for 300.00 that doesn't shoot near as well as others at 1/2 the price, and then have the consumer market spend 300% more trying to make it shoot as good as the other guns...I dont get it, but I have heard...and this is the truth...."Yeah it was almost three hundred bucks, but there are a huge amount of barrels/triggers/stocks/etc. that I can buy for it and make it shoot good! THATS why I bought it!" It's nothing to see a guy with over a GRAND (or more!) into a 10/22, yet my stock TC benchmark will walk circles around it at the range.

Dont get me wrong...I'm a huge ruger fan....some may even consider me a ruger collector, but when it comes to the 10/22? It's kinda like putting a big ass muffler on a civic....I wont do that either ;)
 
the Lakefield Mark II bolt and the Mark III semi use the same mags. the same mag is used in the Savage and Stevens 300 bolt. I have to agree that the Ruger marketing strategy is amazing. They get 400 % at least profit for each gun for the extras needed to make the gun shoot. I have shot against many "revamped" Ruger 10/22s with my absolute stock 1940 Marlin 81 and proved mine superior at many different distances. Having a series of rifles using the same mag does not make them a superior make. Dare we compare the numbers of the Cooey,Lakefield,Winchester,Savage Model 64 to the Ruger?
 
mooseman1 said:
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True they are a mass produced gun ,but what other gunmaker even comes close to Ruger's number's?...
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It's my understanding that the Marlin's sold 2:1 vs Rugers...you may not read about them quite as much due, people who buy it and, enjoy it [as it came] don't feel compelled to write about doing nothing to their .22...

I adore my '64s with many decades of production and, to this day, almost nothing "aftermarket" for it....
 
Marlin Model 60 IS the MOST POPULAR rimfire in North America, this model ALONE has sold 11 MILLION. Ruger 10/22 is catching up, but not even close to there.

There's so much fuss about the ruger because you absolutely need to add after market stuff on it to make it remotely accurate. Where as the Marlin just shoots right out of the box and maybe you can put a scope on it and that's all you will ever have to do. Maybe that's too boring for some, but sure has hell is good enough for me!

Ruger 77/22 doesn't even compared to the CZ 452 or older Brnos in terms accuracy. Shot both, and I will never let my cz go.

Ruger's guns have never been the most accurate, but what they do have is good designs. I'm mainly talking about the No. 1's here, I have No. 1S in 375H&H myself and enjoy it very much.
 
Wrong Way said:
They set the whole thing up for suckers....seriously.

You gotta hand it to them though....marketing genious!

They can sell a crappy gun for 300.00 that doesn't shoot near as well as others at 1/2 the price, and then have the consumer market spend 300% more trying to make it shoot as good as the other guns...I dont get it, but I have heard...and this is the truth...."Yeah it was almost three hundred bucks, but there are a huge amount of barrels/triggers/stocks/etc. that I can buy for it and make it shoot good! THATS why I bought it!" It's nothing to see a guy with over a GRAND (or more!) into a 10/22, yet my stock TC benchmark will walk circles around it at the range.

Dont get me wrong...I'm a huge ruger fan....some may even consider me a ruger collector, but when it comes to the 10/22? It's kinda like putting a big ass muffler on a civic....I wont do that either ;)
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My point exactly , wonder what percent they get from all the aftermarket stuff.should we boycott them or should we support them for giving us a great toy to entertain our selves to brink of finanical short coming's,and turned us in to bragging showoff's?
 
There is the school of thought that likes to buy a cheap a 10/22 and then spend twice what that rifle cost originally to make it look and shoot real good. Ruger should really think about selling 10/22 receivers only.

There are those who like to buy inexpensive rifles and don't do anything to them because they do not need to. The rifle is reliable and accurate enough for all practical purposes. The Marlin 60 and 795 are good examples.

There are those who will spend on a mid priced quality semi like the TC and enjoy a beautifully finished, accurate and steel receiver rifle out of the box.

Like many said, the 10/22 could be a money pit if one allows himself to be sucked in. But many shooters are happy doing that.

I myself am not into spending big bucks in essentially cheap guns, poor investment IMO. Not likely to ever recover the cash except in enjoyment value.

But that is the beauty of our sport. There is something out there for everyone and for every budget.
 
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