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Long time ago 90s..a gun shop had some 22 RF ammo from Russia....what made this very different that I have never been able to find again.It was rough and crude of design for 22 RF ammo...I will describe as best as I can

It came in a wooden crate....the ammo was in 100 rd packets..it was wrapped in a grease paper...the rounds were stacked rim up/down but were in a block of heavy grease,like cosmoline but waxier.

What was really weird was the bullet where it meets the case,it was so heavily crimped( or that's how it looked) it flowered back out again...i would have to say to the same diameter of the bullet.It sort of looked like a blank rifle round that has been fired...that crimp look..

He only had a couple of cases...he said it was accurate,but was quite dirty

I would love to find some...or at least find out the story,it was nasty looking

Any insight?
 
In the late 60s and early 70s we would buy boxes of 50 round Russian 22 ammo for 50 cents, almost pocket change, the bullets were black as were the cases. You had to watch out for lose ones when chambering in out trusty Cooey single shots. Ammo came in a cardboard box and went bang for most part from the box. There were the also occasional oh shi$ it’s stuck again moment. Bought at one of the then numerous army surplus by babes in the snoods with no papers
 
I had some dirty black ones in a white flimsy box of 50, it was good ammo if you could stand the crud and #### smell, I was shooting a russian free pistol at gophers and worked great.
It was cheap, about 20yr ago or so. never seen any in wax paper.
I think Century Int, was the dist, so that would be pre C68.
 
I had a couple of 6000 round crates of that stuff, back in the early eighties.

It was definitely Com Bloc surplus, black in color and crimped as you describe. I dumped all of it into a a bath of warmed up Varsol to wash off the Cosmoline like preservative grease.

My assumption was that the preservative was used because the cases were made from very mild steel, I have no idea what the black coating was and it was matte finished, not shiny.

The propellant was DIRTY, the ammo was very consistent at all temps, right down to the -30Cs.

Like all surplus, when it's gone, there isn't any more coming up.

I surmised it was used for their training programs??
 
I believe I have some of this stuff as the brick came heavily wrapped in construction type paper. Will happily pass it to you what’s left as I hated handling it as it was so greasy/waxy but it shot ok and don’t remember any duds. PM me —Dieseldog!
 
I still have one box left of this Russian ammo. in my .22 Collection. Like others here I remember shooting this cheaply priced ammo. back in the 1960's.
My box has an ink stamp with "Y91.V111.66" ( date of manufacture I guess) and my pen mark "69". Box is light tan, but bottom & ends are light blue. On the top is a picture of open sights
and some Russian words. One end has "50 WT." Bottom has Russian words and "1.5KM", meaning max. distance I assume. Of course it has the black bullet & black steel case.
I remember them being OK. Must have as I bought many while available back then. Like many ODD ammo. types ,,,, they come & they go.
 
Hopefully the OP just wants some for collecting purposse"s.....because that stuff was complete junk.
Had some back in the day. worst stuff I had ever used, Like others have pointed out.
 
lone ranger said:
Hopefully the OP just wants some for collecting purposse"s.....because that stuff was complete junk.
Had some back in the day. worst stuff I had ever used, Like others have pointed out.
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Maybe it was just your rifle??

I used mine, mostly in a Margolin Vostok pistol and it was the best ammo for it, accuracy wise, on paper targets.

The Soviets used this same ammo to win international matches, including the Olympics.

It was plenty accurate enough, just greasy and if it wasn't cleaned properly, collected all sorts of grit.
 
bobdbldr said:
I bought a couple boxes whe I was young, it was cheap and worked, as for the smell,, I love the smell of most gunpowder.
Theses few I found in an old homestead that was being torn down compared to the imperial from the same era!

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Hey bobdbldr I hope all is well . I have some old steel cased 22 ammo somewhere . I wont shoot it because I have heard that it's hard on firing pins . I read many years ago that the Americans were in a Biathlon competition and they were losing because their ammo wouldn't work properly in the cold temperatures so they either did some horse trading or stole some Russian 22 ammo so they could keep competing. and as for the smell of some gunpowder some smells fantastic and some well not so fantastic . Remington yellow jacket 22 ammo smelled nice . maybe we could come up with our own cologne for shooters . eau de Gunpowder .
 
Must be something about Russian ammo. I bought some Wolf target armmo a couple of years ago that apparently was top end stuff and very accurate but the bullets were black and greasy to handle.
 
cement head said:
Hey bobdbldr I hope all is well . I have some old steel cased 22 ammo somewhere . I wont shoot it because I have heard that it's hard on firing pins . I read many years ago that the Americans were in a Biathlon competition and they were losing because their ammo wouldn't work properly in the cold temperatures so they either did some horse trading or stole some Russian 22 ammo so they could keep competing. and as for the smell of some gunpowder some smells fantastic and some well not so fantastic . Remington yellow jacket 22 ammo smelled nice . maybe we could come up with our own cologne for shooters . eau de Gunpowder .
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Haha, yea it probably would be a bit harder on the pins, maybe Eau de pew pew,,, naw, that doesn't sound right!:)
 
I had a wooden case of the Russian .22 ammo as described above. It was called "Junior" with a picture of a chicken on it. As described it was wrapped in 500 count paper/cardboard bricks and as described was black in color and very stinky for smell on ignition. My old BRNO #4 loved this stuff but after I sold the gun I sold the rest of the ammo at the Calgary Easter show a few years ago and people who knew what it was scooped it up as I sold it for Winchester Wildcat prices. Obviously no current source. Phil.
 
This is the stuff I remember. Mid 90's. Was reasonably accurate but there was definitely some extraction issues. Heavy waxy grease crap.

Might have a few boxes around still.

 
Geoman said:
In the late 60s and early 70s we would buy boxes of 50 round Russian 22 ammo for 50 cents, almost pocket change, the bullets were black as were the cases. You had to watch out for lose ones when chambering in out trusty Cooey single shots. Ammo came in a cardboard box and went bang for most part from the box. There were the also occasional oh shi$ it’s stuck again moment. Bought at one of the then numerous army surplus by babes in the snoods with no papers
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Yup I bought many boxes of them in the 60’s as well at Army and Navy in Regina. They were way cheaper than anything else. Not saying they were as accurate but cheap shooting for a 12 year old. And never had a problem buying any ammo back then at 12 years old.
 
Century (or maybe it was International Import) used to have Russian Biathlon ammo for dirt cheap, and from what I remember, it shot pretty good.

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Reeferman said:
Yup I bought many boxes of them in the 60’s as well at Army and Navy in Regina. They were way cheaper than anything else. Not saying they were as accurate but cheap shooting for a 12 year old. And never had a problem buying any ammo back then at 12 years old.
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Ah, the good old days!
 
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