Russian Arsenal Ptrd

When in doubt make your own :D

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In the U.S.

www.bigskysurplus.com

14.5MM DUMMY BALL ROUNDS steel case — $10 each, brass case — $20 each
14.5MM AP DUMMY ROUNDS steel case — $35 each brass case — $45 each
14.5MM BALL BULLETS — $10 each
14.5MM AP BULLETS (NOT API) — $30 each
14.5MM FIRED CASES steel case — $10 ea., brass case — $20 ea.
14.5MM BALL AMMO — $35 ea.
14.5MM PRIMED CASES — $25 ea.
 
pirate said:
In the U.S.

www.bigskysurplus.com
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Here's one of the videos in our on-line Screening Room.

In it, Scott talks about Big Sky's "downloading" of the charge used in the 14.5mm ammunition they sell. I think they must do it for liability issues, just in case the full charge WWII loads blew up a customer and their 65 year old PTRD. :D

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1941 Russian 14.5 mm PTRD Anti-tank Rifle (Range Video) ... click herehttp://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=851

This is some fun range video of MILSURPS.COM member Scott at the Milcun training facility, zeroing his Russian 1941 Russian 14.5 mm PTRD anti-tank rifle, then engaging targets at 100 and 400 meters.

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Somewhere over the rainbow...

Well... if you live in Quebec, there's always the possibility of asking someone just the other side of Mercier bridge, in Kanawaké indian reserve: there were cases of it still available just before the "Oka crisis".
Now, I'm pretty sure they still exist: they weren't used during the events...
Since this is legal stuff, I bet you could find some...;)
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Well, speaking as some one who does have a PTRD, I can answer the ammo question with some authority. Back about two years ago, a couple of different sources had the stuff. I bought a couple of rounds and I still have two. But today, I can't find any.

I am even thinking about selling mine, if I can't find anymore ammo.

Oh yeah, Big Sky won't ship to Canada. I already asked.
 
Yeah if ammo was availible at even $20 a round I would be all over one! I could import the ammo personaly... but its violating US law right now... Wich isn't something I want to screw with right now.
 
I've been bending CanAm's ear about bringing in ammo for about 2 years now!
Most of the ammo made is HE or Incendiary, so cannot be imported. If he could find ball ammo, he probably would consider it.
 
Missing Something said:
When in doubt make your own :D /quote]

Craig, that reminds me, I was supposed to send you the case I turned out of steel. Do you still want to play with it?
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Yes PLEASE... getting the itch again and the weather getting nice... time to play :evil:

Have some cards in play and hopefully there will be some easily reloadable brass in my future :eek:
 
There are actually two problems with ammo. First I can find no supplier of inert projectile ammo, or even just tracer, only API, APIT, etc. Second, no one can tell me that new, or even surplus ammo, is safe in a PTRD. All the current stocks were for the ZPU AA guns and similar. That basically just leaves having new ammo loaded. Certainly possible, but with the US being out, that leaves a tiny market in Canada, maybe a bit in Europe.
 
How about having the bullets and power pulled offshore and importing just the primed brass ... there are projectiles around to make pretty good moulds with. Then all you need is a small scale manufacturer willing to make a batch of bullets.
 
After doing research for the last 2 years I found that the current ammo is that same that was produced in the '40's. It was 3200fps then and is the same now. They generally down load the ammo 10% "to be safe" in the old guns. I found by doing pressure readings that its not necessary. I have loaded mine to 3000fps and have 45-50,000 psi which is in the safe limits.
Apparently the biggest supply is in Africa and the weight is what kills most deals from what I understand.

Right now the biggest problem is brass cases. :bangHead:

but to every problem there is a solution :kickInTheNuts:
 
Missing Something said:
After doing research for the last 2 years I found that the current ammo is that same that was produced in the '40's. It was 3200fps then and is the same now.
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When you fire your PTRD, does the action actually move to the rear and eject the casing in the commercially available ammo you've used?

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Yes, when the ammo is at full power it kicks the brass out. The system was designed to take the recoil and use it to cycle the action. As long as the internal cartridge pressure is in the normal ranges.
 
RobSmith said:
How about having the bullets and power pulled offshore and importing just the primed brass ... there are projectiles around to make pretty good moulds with. Then all you need is a small scale manufacturer willing to make a batch of bullets.
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Seems simple enough but demilling in most countries means burning. So the machines to pull bullets are not sitting around waiting. This means tooling up or using pliers, etc and again you are dealing with the wrong projectiles. You are also taking a product being sold cheaply and adding value to it in the form a labour, so the cost goes up. All of this bearing in mind the tiny market. Even 100k rounds is a very small order. That would be enough to supply the Canadian market for ages.

PS I have yet to find any brass cased 14.5. With the Soviet penchant for steel cases it is rare,
 
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Missing Something said:
After doing research for the last 2 years I found that the current ammo is that same that was produced in the '40's. It was 3200fps then and is the same now. They generally down load the ammo 10% "to be safe" in the old guns. I found by doing pressure readings that its not necessary. I have loaded mine to 3000fps and have 45-50,000 psi which is in the safe limits.
Apparently the biggest supply is in Africa and the weight is what kills most deals from what I understand.

Right now the biggest problem is brass cases. :bangHead:

but to every problem there is a solution :kickInTheNuts:
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Tell me more about your research. I really don't spend much time on 14.5 as the potential is small.
 
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