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toyboy said:
i remember watching a documentary about a p38 lightning that crash landed on a glacier and was buried under something like 50 feet of ice after it was left there for many years.a crew basically used steam machines to burrow down to it and strip the wings etc. off and raise it to the surface.one piece @ a time...
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She's called "Glacier Girl" you can find a whole lot info about it. there are less than 10 flying examples of the P-38 and shes one of them. I think its the most fantastic aircraft ever designed. but thats just my opinion:D
I would sell my liver on the black market to fly one of them!
 
Buck Turgidson said:
She's called "Glacier Girl" you can find a whole lot info about it. there are less than 10 flying examples of the P-38 and shes one of them. I think its the most fantastic aircraft ever designed. but thats just my opinion:D
I would sell my liver on the black market to fly one of them!
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..Not sure if the aviation medical examiner would see you fit to fly with no liver!! :p

here is some CGN worthy footage of the glacier girl's armament...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8h43TRXwk
 
Buck Turgidson said:
She's called "Glacier Girl" you can find a whole lot info about it. there are less than 10 flying examples of the P-38 and shes one of them. I think its the most fantastic aircraft ever designed. but thats just my opinion:D
I would sell my liver on the black market to fly one of them!
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i think the dehaviland mosquito is the most awesome and versatile aircaraft for WW2 not to many of them about sadly.
 
The P-38 flies like a pickup truck. the Mossie is much lighter on the controls.

The FW-190 looks like it was landed there. Probably on a swamp clearing. from the air, a swamp looks like a clearing in a forest.

In the opening scene I think i saw a glimpse of cannon shells in the nose section. That seems wrong. Should be 8mm or maybe 13mm (like a 50 cal). The two open panels are the gun service hatch and a small storage area where the radios are.

The FW190 was a fantastic airplane. It had a very powerful air cooled radial engine with a single power lever, which made it easier to manage than other engines which had a pitch control, mixture control and a throttle. In combat, as single control is less distracting and more responsive. The radial engine is more robust in that a bullet hole in a water-cooled engine leads to the loss of the engine.

Some models of the 190 had water-cooled engines, these were V-12s developing a bit more power than the Merlin of the time. This version had a slightly longer nose and tail section, but looked like an aircooled engine from the front.

The only other plane that I have seen with this single power control lever feature is a Mooney with a Porsche engine. Hmmm. German technology?
 
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toyboy said:
i remember watching a documentary about a p38 lightning that crash landed on a glacier and was buried under something like 50 feet of ice after it was left there for many years.a crew basically used steam machines to burrow down to it and strip the wings etc. off and raise it to the surface.one piece @ a time...
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Decades ago I drove semi for a company formed by three vets, who had ferried planes to Britain. One trip they left Greenland to Iceland, fogged in returned to Greenland, same thing, so out of fuel they landed on the ice and were rescued about a week later, those I believe were the planes, three fighters and a couple of light bombers. Mr. Greenway, our boss was tall and lost his toes due to frostbite, Mr. Flood and Moloney were fine. Moloney fought in the battle of Britain, these men I believe were part of the lost planes, admirable men! Pleasant memories, watched the recovery of the relics, interesting.. Should have asked more questions,, the folly of youth!
 
speaking of old milsurp found in swamps.....any of you guys see that T34 tank pulled out of a pond in Romania? that was amazing the shape it was in all the paint intact ..I guess its up and running now.
 
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