Russian Surplus 7.62x25

It will most likely be steel core. 70s production ammo would be set to use 86 gr steel core covered with led layer stuffed in copper aloy jacket. Same bullet they used since 40's. When you have to make millions of rounds to supply huge standing army that consists of drafted soldiers that have little to no respect to the state property, it makes sense to use cheapest materials like steel to produce those millions of rounds.
As I said in PM, there is no vodka consumption at state defence factories during manufacturing of ammo so rest assured it will go bang.
 
gewehr76 said:
It will most likely be steel core. 70s production ammo would be set to use 86 gr steel core covered with led layer stuffed in copper aloy jacket. Same bullet they used since 40's. When you have to make millions of rounds to supply huge standing army that consists of drafted soldiers that have little to no respect to the state property, it makes sense to use cheapest materials like steel to produce those millions of rounds.
As I said in PM, there is no vodka consumption at state defence factories during manufacturing of ammo so rest assured it will go bang.
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are you sure its a copper jacket most soviet era surplus uses a steel alloy jacket
 
I don't believe Russia began producing steel-cored 7.62TT ammo until after the war, other than late-war API. You will find, however, that it all had steel jackets, which leads some to think it's steel-cored.
Midnight, when you say "Russian Surplus 7.62x25", what era/headstamp are you referring to?
 
jonnyc said:
I don't believe Russia began producing steel-cored 7.62TT ammo until after the war, other than late-war API. You will find, however, that it all had steel jackets, which leads some to think it's steel-cored.
Midnight, when you say "Russian Surplus 7.62x25", what era/headstamp are you referring to?
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This is all I can go on right now… I am more concerned about the reliability, and what experiences people have had it… I have read that the Polish stuff in the States had issues with cracked necks.
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Yes steel jacket, then on top layer of led then this assembly stuffed in to copper alloy jacket that you see as the bullet overall diameter.
7.62X25 bullets can come in many variations. Some can be with steel core penetrator, some have led core then steel jacket then led jacket covered with copper jacket which is outer jacket of the bullet. They will all stick to magnets as they all have some steel in them.
No way of knowing what is exact construction of this particular 1977 lot unless some one goes and cuts bullet apart.
 
I have fired a whole bunch of stuff from different manufacturers and it all went bang. Some stuff cycled better than others but its a 70 year old gun that was never very refined in the first place. It's cheap, crude and effective :)
 
The stuff goes bang in Soviet TT33,Polish TT33,Tokagypt,Hungarian Super 12, and Zastava Models. My Chinese Model not so much..it will only fire consistently using commercial ammo
 
Ooh, I actually need that box variation in my collection. I currently have about 115 different Tokarev boxes and packet, but could still use the one posted above. Anyone willing to send an empty box down to Pennsylvania???

And that should be 100% reliable for you. Some of the Polish stuff has small cracks around the dot/stab neck crimps, but it all goes BANG.
 
The Russian 7.62x25mm from the 1970s/1980s is probably the nicest surplus ammunition I've ever fired. It's not dirty and it's reliable. If it didn't double in price this time around I would probably pick up a few crates.

It's copper washed, so no laquer build up. Should be steel case and bi-metal jacket. If there is a 'steel core' it's really just a soft iron/steel core used analogously in place of lead. It's not meant to be armour piercing or other such nonsense. Iron is cheaper than lead, that's all.
 
midnightpossum said:
This is all I can go on right now… I am more concerned about the reliability, and what experiences people have had it… I have read that the Polish stuff in the States had issues with cracked necks.
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This case tells you everything. The first line says that: (first 2 letters) - Bullet has steel core inside, (T) usually means tracer, but here, I'm not sure, (last 2 letters) means that case is made of steel. Second line, second set of numbers is the year of production, here it's 1977.
 
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