S.I.R. Mosin Nagants?

TheIndifferent1

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Hey all,
Has anyone bought a Mosin Nagant from S.I.R.? I just got their new catalogue today and on page 118, they have 1944 carbines on sale for $149.99.

it has:
metric rear tangent sight
hooded post front sight
adjustable rear sight
hinged floor plate
permanently fixed bayonette

Has a 5 shot capacity, 20.5" barrel. It comes with an oil can, sling, ammo pouches, cleaning rod, takedown tool and cleaning jag. 7.62x54 Russian. Very good condition, hand selected.

Think it's worth it for the price? I'm going to email them and see if the bolt/receivers are number matching.

I hope now that I've made this not all of you run out and buy them, leaving me with nothing :p

Hm I just read the front of the catalogue - for some reason they sent me a spring-summer one. I hope they're not all sold out :(
 
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They are sold out of M91/30's, but they have some M44's left last I checked. They are import marked with the somewhat ugly Century Arms import mark, but most Russian M44's in Canada are marked that way, so it won't overly affect value IMHO. Most, if not all, will have matching bolts. Bores on these range from sewer pipe to new, unfired. Seems to be a crap shoot. The post war dated ones (1946 and later) seem to have the nicer bores, but wartime dates are more collectable (43-45). Some might also have counterbored muzzles, which for a Mosin carbine, is not unusual - in fact it's so common, I don't consider it much of a negative. The CB's Mosin carbines I have actually tend to be better shooters due to the fresh crown.

If you want more of a "looker", P&S has laminate stocked M44's for just $25 more. I have one of these en-route, for that matter :)
 
I'm going more for shooting value than being a looker. Having a good bore is more important to me than the condition of the stock - a few dings adds character!

Newbie question but what do you mean by counterbored muzzle?

Seeing as how I'm far away from SIR, is it worthwhile to put an order in and hope I get a good bore? How's their return policy? This would be my first firearm, but is exactly what I want until I can find a cheap full-wood Lee Enfield :)
 
I ordered one up, it was a 1946, excellent bore, and has been "counterbored" as claven stated all matching numbers and yes, it has that century arms dot matrix mark thingy. fun to shoot if you can find ammo - not as hard to find if you'll settle for milsurp.

fun to shoot, id say its worth it
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
I'm going more for shooting value than being a looker. Having a good bore is more important to me than the condition of the stock - a few dings adds character!

Newbie question but what do you mean by counterbored muzzle?

Seeing as how I'm far away from SIR, is it worthwhile to put an order in and hope I get a good bore? How's their return policy? This would be my first firearm, but is exactly what I want until I can find a cheap full-wood Lee Enfield :)
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My honest opinion is that you should consider e-mailing P&S militaria. They handpick at no charge and will even send you photos of the actual rifle before you decide to buy or not.

At SIR, a half-interested employee (at best) looks at one or two rifles and then mails you whatever tickles his fancy. What shows up will be a total surprise to both him and you ;)

Also, P&S Has M38's for the same price (think M44 without bayonet). You might be more interested in one of those if you want a pure shooter.
 
Claven2 said:
My honest opinion is that you should consider e-mailing P&S militaria. They handpick at no charge and will even send you photos of the actual rifle before you decide to buy or not.

At SIR, a half-interested employee (at best) looks at one or two rifles and then mails you whatever tickles his fancy. What shows up will be a total surprise to both him and you ;)

Also, P&S Has M38's for the same price (think M44 without bayonet). You might be more interested in one of those if you want a pure shooter.
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I'll definitly email them and see what they have :) Thanks for the tips!

but what is counterboring?
 
Counterboring is the act of machining the muzzle back about 1/4-1/2" into the barrel so that the rifling crown is "refreshed" to like new. The barrel stays the same length, but the rifling ends back inside the barrel a given distance depending upon the depth of the counterbore.

It's a vey common practice on eastern block weapons to extend the service life of a barrel with a worn or damaged crown.
 
I bought one quite a while ago (like almost a year ago), I'm surprised they still have them in stock :p I recently sold it though, for lack of ammo and to fund another project. The bore was pretty good on it, no counterbore but definetely in good shape otherwise, very shiny. All matching #'s on bolt, reciever & mag floor plate, etc etc etc. Sometimes I think I shoulda kept it, but then I look at my bank account and quickly change my mind. Then again, they're so cheap I could always get another one...

What's the 1-800 number for GunNuts Anonymous? "My name is poweredbybeer, and I am a *sob* gunnut" :D
 
I remember when SIR had a selection of Nagant carbines at $57 each, I bought a couple that were in unissued condition. I sold them for $100 each, and still kick myself!
 
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