S&W M&P9 Pro for Production class
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Trigger pull weight as well. I know you didn't ask but after owning a few IPSC production set ups (Glock being one) I'd say for the money the Grand Power K100 X-Trim or even better the Excalibur would be the cheapest and best way to play in that class. Mags are $40 and available. I am very impressed by mine so far. With that said I use a Tangfo Stock 3 for Production but that price is much higher.
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- Halifax - NS
All production division guns must have barrels less than 5" / 127mm. Glock 34 - 135mm barrel, M&P Pro - 108mm barrel.
Careful of the M&P Pros - apparently after the trigger gets worked in; it can be less than the 5 lb minimum, which gets you tossed into Open division.
Careful of the M&P Pros - apparently after the trigger gets worked in; it can be less than the 5 lb minimum, which gets you tossed into Open division.
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Thanks for the information everyone.
What I do not understand is the requirement for a minimum trigger pull. Some people I know with cz75 have the sa trigger pull a LOT lighter than the minimum but the da trigger pull is over the minimum.
Why doesn't the requirement apply to every shot?
What I do not understand is the requirement for a minimum trigger pull. Some people I know with cz75 have the sa trigger pull a LOT lighter than the minimum but the da trigger pull is over the minimum.
Why doesn't the requirement apply to every shot?
Because it only applies to the Double Action pull. So, all striker guns are at some disadvantage, but there are quite a few people who can shot those guns as well as DA/SA guns. But hey, you don't have to lower the safety on those guns! 
PS: if I were starting IPSC again, I'd get a CZ (or Tanfoglio) and keep shooting it. Oh, but that's what I did... Never mind.
PS: if I were starting IPSC again, I'd get a CZ (or Tanfoglio) and keep shooting it. Oh, but that's what I did... Never mind.
Because it only applies to the Double Action pull. So, all striker guns are at some disadvantage, but there are quite a few people who can shot those guns as well as DA/SA guns. But hey, you don't have to lower the safety on those guns!
PS: if I were starting IPSC again, I'd get a CZ (or Tanfoglio) and keep shooting it. Oh, but that's what I did... Never mind.
Agree! What I did too until the Classic dark side pulled me over.....
Yes.
It's all in there.From the competitor perspective, it really doesn't matter why or how guns make the approved Production list. The approved list just exists, much like air exists to those who breathe. If you want to get to the "why", then godspeed, and have a look in IPSC Global Village...
Because it only applies to the Double Action pull. So, all striker guns are at some disadvantage, but there are quite a few people who can shot those guns as well as DA/SA guns. But hey, you don't have to lower the safety on those guns!
PS: if I were starting IPSC again, I'd get a CZ (or Tanfoglio) and keep shooting it. Oh, but that's what I did... Never mind.
Yeah, lesson learned here too. Now I just need to unload my pro and find a shadow.
Branwilder
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- Durham Region, Ontario
You mean 3 gun not IDPA, if it continues growing at it's pace you'll see a lot less IPSC/USPSA matches in the future, especially USPSA. But it might also burn out.
As for the gun in question, as Sean mentioned be careful "polishing" the sear and striker areas, the Pros very easily slip below 5lbs. There was a movement for awhile to have a minimum trigger pull on SA as well for us TDA guys, but thankfully that was tossed out. The proposal if I remember correctly was a 2kg DA and a 1kg SA, which would have resulted in a ton of shooters suddenly being in Open as their factory guns after a few thousand rounds, no longer could meet the 1kg rule. This was championed by some as a way to level the playing field with striker fired guns and TDA guns, which it really wouldn't have done, but that's a whole other argument.
Oh, and it's Division not Class, Class is your ranking GM, M, A, B, C, D
As for the gun in question, as Sean mentioned be careful "polishing" the sear and striker areas, the Pros very easily slip below 5lbs. There was a movement for awhile to have a minimum trigger pull on SA as well for us TDA guys, but thankfully that was tossed out. The proposal if I remember correctly was a 2kg DA and a 1kg SA, which would have resulted in a ton of shooters suddenly being in Open as their factory guns after a few thousand rounds, no longer could meet the 1kg rule. This was championed by some as a way to level the playing field with striker fired guns and TDA guns, which it really wouldn't have done, but that's a whole other argument.
Oh, and it's Division not Class, Class is your ranking GM, M, A, B, C, D
good thing I have a while to read up, i understand having the rules for the trigger pulls. But if you have done absolutely nothing to modify your production gun, once it starts to wear out, you have to replace the trigger group?
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- Halifax - NS
Awesome statement. Well put!
Ipsc is soo '80's....
IDPA....
Yes. Selection of your equipment based on it's capabilities & maintenance regime plays a big part in all competitive sports. If you're concerned about an M&P Pro not keeping it's trigger legal in the sport / division you've chosen and don't want to burden yourself with it's upkeep, perhaps another firearm is better suited for that task.
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Awesome statement. Well put!
Yes. Selection of your equipment based on it's capabilities & maintenance regime plays a big part in all competitive sports. If you're concerned about an M&P Pro not keeping it's trigger legal in the sport / division you've chosen and don't want to burden yourself with it's upkeep, perhaps another firearm is better suited for that task.
im going to be new to ipsc (hopefully soon), i dont mind doing maintenance. Any of the experienced guys know roughly how often parts need to be replaced/repaired to keep the M&P legal?
GET IN THERE!!! Seriously, get you BB and get in the matches, it's a blast!
If you're running a stock M&P 4.25" (not the Pro or CORE, I don't have any data on those), you will probably never wear it in so much that it goes below minimum trigger pull. Don't worry about it. If you're a worrier, buy yourself a trigger pull gauge and watch it. But you will be wasting your time.
